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Barbie Trial -- Day 6 -- Barbie's role in the roundup of Jews

Film | Accession Number: 2005.516.1 | RG Number: RG-60.1597 | Film ID: 3960

14:50 Defense lawyer Vergès gives closing remarks. 14:52 President Cerdini suspends the hearing.

15:29 Cerdini resumes the hearing. 15:30 Cerdini delivers the court's judgment on Barbie's unwillingness to attend trial proceedings.

15:32 Prosecutor Nordmann delivers civil parties' conclusions

15:34 Cerdini delivers a statement of facts relating to the convoy of August 11, 1944, in which prisoners of the Montluc prison in Lyon were rounded up and loaded onto a 10-car train. After many stops in France and little food or water, male resistants were offloaded at Struthof, female resistants were sent to Ravensbruck, and female Jews were sent to Birkenau. In total, the convoy included 308 Jews and 264 resistants.

15:41 Cerdini discusses the responsibility of Barbie in the dispatch of this convoy; there are no documents signed by him relating to the convoy that have been found, but several witnesses saw him at the roll call immediately prior to the convoy's departure

15:42 Prosecutor Rappaport gives precision that some Resistants were also Jews, and did not even know for which reason they were being deported

15:43 Prosecutor Iannucci specifies that there is evidence there were children under the age of 5 included in the August 11 convoy

15:44 Prosecutor Zelmati asks that written testimony be read which places Barbie at the departure of the August 11 convoy from Lyon

15:47 A clerk reads written testimony from resistant Maurice Picard, who was working in Lyon at the time, placing Barbie in Lyon at the time the convoy left the city.

15:52 Prosecutor Zelmati comments on Barbie's presence in Lyon on August 11, discusses the fact that SNCF has no record of this train whatsoever, and that it was not in normal commuter service

15:55 Cerdini delivers a statement of facts relating to other civil parties deported from Lyon, outside of the Izieu raid, the February 9 raid, and the convoy of August 11; discusses general activity of the SD and SIPO of Lyon, the numbers of people who were imprisoned at Montluc, as well as numbers of Jews and Resistants deported from Lyon; discussion of a document, signed June 1942, which gave permission to Gestapo members to perform 'interrogatoires renforcés' (strengthened interrogation) when it was believed that the detainee had information about the enemy that they were not freely divulging. Cerdini asks what Barbie's role in this torture and the deportations was, commenting that Barbie and his boss, Knoren (head of the SD and SIPO for all of France) are in contradiction in their testimony on this point.

16:03 Prosecutor Iannucci reads a declaration from Barbie in which he admitted to furnishing the Gestapo with documents he knew would lead to the deportation of many

16:03 Prosecutor Klarsfeld implicates Barbie using the deposition of another SIPO-SD member in Lyon which states that Barbie signed deportation orders

16:04 Statement of facts relating to the history of the 'Night and Fog' decree and of the 'Final Solution,' in order to discover whether Barbie knew about these projects and therefore the eventual fate of those he was deporting

16:12 Attempt to understand whether Barbie and other SS members had knowledge of the meaning of the "Final Solution," using Nuremberg Trials testimony and a Telex sent from the RHSA to various officers involved in the deportation of Jews, including Barbie's direct superior, instructing them not to give those who were being deported any indication as to where they were going or 'the terms of their internment.' Cerdini finishes with the comment that if these documents are authentic, then the lowest-rank members of the SD knew that those deported were destined to be exterminated.

16:21 Prosecutor Iannucci reminds the court that Barbie had been a member of the SD in 1935 and of the Nazi party since 1937; Dachau was inaugurated in March 1933; argues that Barbie cannot have been a member of the organization, for whom the concentration camps were an arm of government, without knowing they existed

Event:  1987 May 18
Lyon, France
Accessed at US Holocaust Memorial Museum, courtesy of Institut National de L'Audiovisuel
Record last modified: 2020-02-04 10:39:13
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