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Barbie Trial -- Day 16 -- Two witnesses and a civil party testify

Film | Accession Number: 2005.516.1 | RG Number: RG-60.1627 | Film ID: 3990

14:57 the Attorney General asks the witness, Mrs. Vansteenberghe, to discuss her husband's mission within the Resistance, which was to follow Barbie

14:57 Prosecutor Iannucci asks the witness to describe the execution of Resistance members after the last transport, on August 11, 1944

15:00 Prosecutor Zelmati comments on the particularity of Barbie's pinky finger, and asks President Cerdini to circulate a photograph of Barbie to the jurors

15:07 Prosecutor Zelmati asks President Cerdini to circulate a group of photographs of the Montluc prison, which demonstrate the witness' view of the hallway and courtyard from inside her cell

15:15 Prosecutor Rigal asks the witness to describe the 'sorting' of the people executed at St. Genis Laval

15:18 President Cerdini interrupts, explaining that the topic falls outside of the confines of the trial

15:20 Prosecutor Vuillard begins to comment on an element of the witness' testimony, but President Cerdini quickly interrupts and asks the court to remember the scope of the trial and not to stray from it

15:21 Cerdini calls the next witness, Mr. Isaac Lathermann; the witness presents himself to the court and is sworn in

15:24 The witness describes his arrest in Lyon, his interrogations, and his torture at the Gestapo headquarters at Place Bellecour, in the presence of Barbie; Mr. Lathermann describes the Jewish barrack at Montluc, and remembers meeting Mr. Pfeiffer, who was later executed by the Gestapo in the streets of Lyon; his journey to Auschwitz as part of the transport of August 11, 1944, the arrival at Auschwitz, and the deportees' incomprehension of the gas chambers; his transport, 6 weeks after arriving at Auschwitz, to the Strutthof camp, and his subsequent forced labor at a Stuttgart airfield; his transfer to Bergen-Belsen; the witness shows the court a photograph of the liberation of Bergen-Belsen, and shares the fate of members of his family

15:37 President Cerdini asks the witness to explain how he identified Barbie; Cerdini asks whether the witness was told at any point prior to his transport to Drancy and then to Auschwitz that he could be deported, and he replies that prisoners at Montluc did not know this might happen; the witness describes seeing a group of SS officers at the departure of the train on August 11, 1944, but they were too far away for him to identify whether Barbie was one of them; the President passes the photograph shared by the witness to the jurors

15:44 Defense attorney Vergès questions the witness regarding Barbie's presence at the departure of the August 11 transport; he comments on the witness' possible confusion between Barbie and another SS officer

15:48 Prosecutor Zelmati reads a deposition given by Mr. Latermann relating to the departure of the August 11 transport

15:49 Prosecutor Jakubowicz reads aloud a declaration made by Barbie about his confrontation with Mr. Latermann; Prosecutor Klarsfeld adds precision to the declaration

15:51 President Cerdini calls a civil party, Mrs. Alice Arnault, née Zohar, to the stand; the civil party presents herself to the court

15:52 Mrs. Arnault describes her arrest in July 1944, by a member of the Gestapo; he explained to her that she had been denominated by a neighbor, and that there was a 5,000 franc prize on her head; she was quickly transferred to Montluc, and then sent on the August 11 transport to Drancy and then to Auschwitz; the witness was then transfered to a forced labor camp in Kratszau, where she worked in a factory

15:57 End of tape

Event:  1987 June 03
Lyon, France
Accessed at US Holocaust Memorial Museum, courtesy of Institut National de L'Audiovisuel
Record last modified: 2020-02-04 10:39:14
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