Overview
- Interview Summary
- Lello Di Segni, born Nov. 4, 1926 in Rome, Italy discusses his childhood in the old ghetto on Via Del Portico D'Ottavia Number 9; being deported to Auschwitz on October 16, 1943; how only 16 people returned to Rome from that deportation to Auschwitz; spending one month in Auschwitz before he was taken to the Warsaw Ghetto as forced labor; and being transferred to Dachau where he was liberated.
- Interviewee
- Lello Di Segni
- Date
-
interview:
2010 April 22
- Credit Line
- United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Collection, Gift of Ariel Baron
Physical Details
- Language
- Italian
- Genre/Form
- Oral histories.
- Extent
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1 DVD-ROM.
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Keywords & Subjects
- Topical Term
- Jews--Persecutions--Italy. Holocaust, Jewish (1939-1945)--Italy--Personal narratives. Men--Personal narratives.
- Geographic Name
- Italy--History--German occupation, 1943-1945.
- Personal Name
- Di Segni, Lello.
Administrative Notes
- Holder of Originals
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Ariel Baron
- Legal Status
- Permanent Collection
- Provenance
- Ariel Baron produced the interview with Lello Di Segni in Rome, Italy on April 22, 2010. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum received the interview in July 2010.
- Special Collection
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The Jeff and Toby Herr Oral History Archive
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- 2023-11-16 09:19:03
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