Oral history interview with Jean Perillat

Oral history interview with Auguste Mudry

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Auguste Mudry discusses his childhood in a Catholic family; his training in civil and military aviation in the National Aviation School and the Military Pilot School of Istres; his experience in military intelligence; his employment as an officer in the Vichy government bureau of Jewish Affairs (Commissariat General aux Questions Juives); the administration of Jewish goods and enterprises called “Service de Contrôles des Administrateurs Provisoires” (SCAP); life in Vichy France after the armistice; the “aryanization” of Jewish real estate businesses; his political attitudes and his personal feelings about Jews; the selling of Jewish-owned real estate and property; the involvement of French police in anti-Jewish measures; public opinion about Jews; the bureaucratic nature of the Vichy Government; resistance activities of Pierre Louis-Dreyfus; his membership in the Action Francaise; the deterioration of the Commissariat; and his arrest along with his parents following liberation.

Oral history interview with Annette Leiris

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Annette Monod-Leiris, born in 1909, discusses her assignments as a social worker in various internment camps, such as Beaune, Drancy, Pithiviers and Voves; her life before the war, teaching in England and working in a workers' home in Evry, France; volunteering for internment camps in both Beaune and Pithiviers; switching from Beaune to the camp in Drancy in 1941; the conditions in Beaune la Rolande, France, including the barracks, over population, toilet facilities, and the food supply; other organizations and institutions represented in the camps; aspects of Pithiviers, including the medical staff, the medical treatment, the permissions for hospital visits, the daily routine of the inmates, and the facilities; aspects of Drancy, including the establishment of her office, her assistants, deportations, executions, layout of the buildings, and the facilities; being fired by the French police for “doing too much” for the inmates; being sent to a camp for communists in Voves, Eure-et-Loir, France; joining the Red Cross for the emergency team in Compiègne, France; how she helped Jews cook to keep Kosher and celebrate important holidays; the living conditions and situation of children at the camps; her participation in the liberation of the Drancy internment camp in 1944; rumors of how prisoners ate organs of the dead to survive; her contact and friendship with Jewish families after the war; and her commitment to Amnesty International.

Oral history interview with Marcelle Duval

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Marcelle Duval, born in Paris, France discusses her academic career before the war and completing her law degree; her family’s move to Fontainebleau; colleagues of hers who were taken during the Vél' d'Hiv Roundup; the lack of food and facilities provided to the victims; her volunteer work with the Red Cross and training to become a nurse and social worker; the hospital in which she worked and her specialization in anesthesia; her involvement and experiences in the National Emergency Teams; the small aid station she provided to Jews who had been rounded up and held at the Vélodrome d'Hiver; the horrendous conditions at the velodrome; her time in Normandy after the Allied invasion; her unit’s service to the First Army in Belfort, Vosges, Ruhr, and Tyrol; her continued services as a nurse after the war; her return to France in 1945; and her postwar professional career as a director of a welfare center.

Oral history interview with Jean Coqueret

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Jean Coqueret discusses his father’s background as a World War I veteran; the collaboration of the French police during the German occupation; the enforcement of racial laws by the French police; the varying degrees of resistance by police and people; his work for the Red Cross in Drancy; and an incident where he tried to help a Jew; witnessing deportations, mass arrests, and poor treatment of Jews in Drancy; the enforcement of wearing yellow Star of David badges; the postwar prosecution of collaborators; and his personal documents such as property papers, food ration cards, and work permits (shown in video).

Oral history interview with Arlette Dachary

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Arlette Dachary, former secretary to the head of “Ponts et Chaussées” (public works) in Gurs concentration camp, discusses her family background and education; the sight of refugees in Bordeaux; her brother’s forced labor; the daily routine of Gurs; her administrative duties; the backgrounds and duties of her colleagues; artistic life in the camp; medical treatment, food, water, and living conditions in the camp; the different categories of inmates at Gurs; the organization of adoption of children by Swiss couples; the disposal of dead bodies; deportations of prisoners; the role of the Swiss Red Cross; the construction of a cemetery; identification of the dead and creating inscriptions for the graves; life in the camp after liberation; her interrogation; fates of different colleagues after liberation; and documents, art, and artifacts from her time working in Gurs.

Oral history interview with Carmen Villalba

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Carmen Villalba, born in Asturias, Spain, discusses her personal background and her father prewar profession; her immigration to France in 1939 as a consequence of her leftist political orientation; the reception of Spaniards in France; her internment in a camp on Belle-Île; her deportation by German occupiers to Gurs concentration camp; her life in Gurs, including the duties of the inmates, separation of different groups of inmates, and conditions of the camp; her contact with Jewish women in the camp; deportations; her stay in another internment camp around Blagnac; the liberation of Blagnac; meeting and marrying her husband; her return to Spain after the death of Franco; her continued friendship with Spanish women who were also in the camp; her health during her imprisonment; her postwar life; and documents and photographs from the period of her internment in Gurs.

Oral history interview with Pierre Larribité

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Pierre Larribité describes his personal and professional background; details of the Gurs concentration camp, including its construction, types of guards, and the rights of the inmates; the location of his home in relation to the camp; his contact with inmates and visitors in the camp; the arrival of Jewish women from Austria and Germany in 1940; poor living conditions in the camp; smuggling food into the camp; cultural events in the camp, including music performances and art; the transfer of inmates from Riversaltes to Gurs; the deportation of Jews to extermination camps; life in camp after deportations; the fate of inmates after liberation; the closing of Gurs; the cemetery of Gurs; and his musings about life during wartime in area around the camp.

Oral history interview with Pierre Langla

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Pierre Langla describes his family background; his military service; his assignment as a guard in Gurs; requirements of the guards; the organization and structure of the camp; living conditions of the prisoners; his injury near Verdun; his arrest during a stay in a military hospital in Nancy; his deportation to Germany; his internment in Rawa-Ruska; the treatment of Jews in Rawa-Ruska; his arrest and imprisonment at Lemberg (now Lviv, Ukraine); his removal to Bavaria and to Czechoslovakia; liberation by Russians; his return to France and career after the war; and documents and photographs from the period of his assignment as a guard in Gurs.

Oral history interview with Victor Deresmaux

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Victor Desreumaux describes his family background; his reasons for joining the French police; his training as a police officer; the treatment of Jews in Paris, including roundups, violence, and propaganda; his personal relationship with Jews; details about how the French police rounded up Jews; an incident in which he manipulated a list to spare a Jewish mother and her child; working with the German military; his views about following orders; the liberation of Saint-Denis; the participation of French police during the liberation of Paris; his ignorance as to what was happening to the Jews until after the war; living conditions in Paris during the war; and the aftermath of the war.

Oral history interview with Serge Klarsfeld

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Oral history interview with Beate Klarsfeld

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Beate Klarsfeld, born in 1939 in Berlin, Germany, describes her family background; her early years of schooling; her lack of knowledge of the Holocaust until she studied in Paris, France as an adult; meeting her husband in 1960 and learning about the Holocaust; the beginnings of her activism against former Nazis; her work on the Kurt Kiesinger case, including her decision to slap the Chancellor; her work on other cases including the ones for Klaus Barbie; Kurt Waldheim, Alois Brunner, Rene Bousquet, and Paul Touvier.

Oral history interview with Simone Ponset Barbier

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Oral history interview with Daniel de Montmollin

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Oral history interview with Jean-François Cinquin

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Oral history interview with Jean Fonteray

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Oral history interview with Gerard Beaufort

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Oral history interview with Marie Moreau-Viguié

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Oral history interview with Jacky Lardy

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Oral history interview with Jeanine Georges

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Oral history interview with Raymonde Billard Fouillit

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Oral history interview with André Lacour

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Oral history interview with Fernand Cachard

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Oral history interview with Janine Pomme Guillot

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Oral history interview with Roger Arnoux

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Oral history interview with Charles Eyrand

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Oral history interview with Denise Rivière Roques

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Denise Rivière Roques, born in 1929 in Chambon-sur-Lignon, France (in her parents’ vacation house), describes life in Saint-Etienne; the transport company created by her grandfather; the deep Protestant faith in her family which she maintains today; the local Jewish population and, in particular, the Coudery family, the two children Yves and Jean, with whom she and her siblings were close; the Coudery family’s flight into hiding when the Germans invaded the Free Zone; the assistance given by the Protestant population to fleeing refugees and to the Resistance in Saint-Etienne; the discouragement of questions by the children and the dangers inherent therein; knowing the Jews had fled because one day she would see them and then they would be gone; the arrest and deportation of her Aunt Dora to Ravensbruk; Aunt Dora’s return; the assistance provided by her family’s transport company to transfer Jews within the region by van and truck and to escape to Switzerland; her father going into hiding when the Gestapo identified his role in helping the Resistance; the importance of the Trocmé family; and the recent loss of her daughter which has forever changed her.

Oral history interview with Paulette Pradier Astier

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Paulette Pradier Astier, born on November 2, 1927 in the Commune de Chambon, France, discusses her family life; her sisters Solange and Simone; departing with her parents for Saint-Agrève in 1929; the tension between Catholics and Protestants in the area; the individual schools for Catholics and Protestants which exacerbated the divide; the food shortages at the war’s outset, even though they lived in an agricultural area; the high cost of food on the black market; her understanding that refugees were arriving because of the German invasion; hiding refugees in their home over a three-year period although she did not know they were Jewish; Pasteur Estopé [PH], who made counterfeit documents for fleeing refugees; the arrival of Madame Cidesse [PH] from Marseille and her three girls in 1943; Madame Cidesse leaving Nicole, her 3-year old, with the Pradier family and placing the other two girls in a pension near the Protestant church; Madame Cidesse hiding herself in different places around the countryside; Madame Cidesse retrieving Nicole in 1947 and immigrating to Israel; her father never talking about their hiding of refugees because he said there was nothing special about what he did.

Oral history interview with René Rivière

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René Rivière, born in 1930 in Saint-Etienne, France, discusses his family history; his four sisters and one brother; his grandfather, who launched a trucking company Fourgon-Stefanois, Rivière et Co. [SP], which transported goods across France, Europe and around the world, later taken over by his father, Henri Rivière; learning to drive a truck at the age of 12, learning the family trade; the strength of Protestantism in the region; the Reform and Calvinist churches and the different branches including the Darbystes; the influx of refugees in the early years of the war; the important role of the Pasteurs André Trocmé and Edouard Theis, pushed by Magda Trocmé, the Pasteur’s wife, in establishing classes for Protestant children; the local boarding houses that provided a shelter infrastructure for Jewish refugee children fleeing the Occupied Zone and elsewhere; the feminist militancy of his Aunt Dora, who studied medicine and travelled to Poland to treat a typhus outbreak and returned to report of concentration camps and virulent antisemitism; Aunt Dora joining the Resistance and distributing anti-Nazi tracts through the family’s trucking business; his first memory of antisemitism with the imposition of Vichy laws; the dismissal of the principal of the local school, M. Monteux; hosting the Monteux family in their house; his uncle’s acquisition of a large farm and hotel in a relatively inaccessible location, which was used to shelter many fleeing refugees; how the fleet of Rivière vehicles, which had authorizations from Vichy and the Gestapo to move merchandise, would eventually transport hidden refugees; the family network speaking in coded language as they worked in order to safely transport refugees to various locations both within the region, within the Free Zone, and to Switzerland; being asked in July 1943 to transport a young man about his age to one of the farms to assist in the harvest who turned out to be Paul De Gaulle, the nephew of Charles De Gaulle; the importance of Pierre Piton as a Resistance leader of one of the escape networks within Chambon-sur-Lignon; the Gestapo and French police arriving at the Rivière home in October 1943 to arrest Aunt Dora; his views of Protestant faith and his family’s rescue efforts; his thoughts on the importance of education about tolerance in the home and in the Protestant church; and the importance of the Collège Cévenol in sheltering refugees and in fostering tolerance and understanding.

Oral history interview with Yvonne Argaud Neboit

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Yvonne Neboit (née Argaud), born in 1928 in the Commune of Ardèche, discusses her childhood which was spent near Devesset, France; her family’s Protestant faith; the Protestant Church in Montpezat-sous-Bauzon and in Sagnes-et-Goudoulet, where she lived; her parents’ work as butchers, who along with other farmers in the region sold food to people coming from Saint-Etienne looking for food during the war; the numerous maquisards in the region along with other young men, who refused to report for forced labor in Germany and were hiding from the gendarmerie; her parents sheltering maquisards throughout the war and in particular one from Avignon named Max Frambonne [PH] and another named François Boulon [PH], who hid several years in her home; other maquisards hiding in empty farms in the vicinity; the hidden maquisards informing the local families if there was a roundup in the area so that the other hidden maquisards could flee; and her parents’ telephone, which they had so they could receive the information of an impending roundup and would inform others.

Oral history interview with Yvonne Lemiere Huguenin

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Oral history interview with Chantal Malgontier Claret

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Oral history interview with Serge Moreau

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Oral history interview with Yvette Fleche Gressard

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Oral history interview with Daniel Boutavant

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Oral history interview with Louis Claret

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Oral history interview with Jeanne Tusseau Boutavant

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Oral history interview with Christian Charlet

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Oral history interview with Mauricette Lajus Merillon

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Oral history interview with Renée Commerçon Grozellier

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Oral history interview with Gisèle Massin

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Oral history interview with Paul Estrade

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Oral history interview with Max Blanc

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Oral history interview with Rene Picot

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Oral history interview with Jean Paul Lugrin

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Oral history interview with Gisele Lerray

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Oral history interview with Pierre Paccard

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Oral history interview with René Pernot

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René Pernot, born on January 22, 1928 in Cormatin, France, describes his family and early life; his father, who was a mechanic; his early childhood through primary school; first noticing that his father was organizing the beginnings of a Resistance group, with meetings at their house along with three to four men, including Monsieur Pagnelle [PH] and Monsieur Delorieux [PH] (the butcher); the villagers knowing who supported the Germans and who did not; the first parachute drops from England in the outskirts of Cormatin in September 1943; his father taking him to the landing site, where two Frenchmen in training in England arrived; other drops, and accompanying his father to collect flyers, information, and other documents; the important Resistance role of the curé Duvernois [PH] of La Chapelle-sous-Brancion; Mlle. Vincent, a teacher in La Chapelle-sous-Brancion; his father going into hiding when the Germans began closing in on his Resistance activities; his father’s return to their home in the evenings; the day he was arrested in his father’s house in November 1943 at the age of 15 when the Mayor and a German soldier arrived; being sent to Montluc for three months; being sent to Compiègne, a transit camp; being sent to Buchenwald, where he stayed until April 1945; the deportation to Buchenwald by cattle car; arriving at the camp at night and getting tattooed; his work at an arms factory in Weimar; corresponding via censored letters with his mother and learning that his father was okay, along with his friend Jean Blavier [PH], and Roger [surname unclear]; the SS transferring the political prisoners to Dachau when the Soviets entered Poland; being too weak to return to Paris when in April 1945 the Americans liberated Dachau; being hospitalized in Switzerland to regain his strength; attributing his survival to his Boy Scout training and laments the lack of interest in scouting in 2018; and his belief that he was arrested because the Germans thought his father would then come forward and declare himself a Resistance leader, but he never did.