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Oral history interview with Lisa Derman and Aron Derman

Oral History | Accession Number: 1997.A.0359 | RG Number: RG-50.549.02.0009

Lisa Derman (née Nussbaum), born in 1926 in Raczki, Poland, and Aron Derman (né Dereczynski), born in 1922 in Slonim, Poland (present day Belarus), discuss their experiences as Soviet partisans; fighting German soldiers; revenge as their motivation for fighting; their feelings and experiences while in the partisan camps; the arrival of the Russian Army; the order from the Russians to gather in Vilaka, Latvia in the summer of 1944; Lisa and her sister being rescued by a Christian; Lisa’s time in the Slonim ghetto with her family; finding Lisa’s old Hebrew school instructor and staying with him and his family; Aron’s time spent in Bialystok, Poland with Lisa’s father; a Jewish committee that organized and connected survivors in Bialystok; the internment of Lisa’s brother in Stutthof; traveling to Palestine; pretending to be Greeks; receiving rations from the United Nations in Budapest, Hungary; traveling across Europe; being smuggled through Italy on trucks; staying in Florence, Italy from 1944 to 1945; living with an Italian family in Rome; details of their March 25, 1947 marriage in Italy; immigrating to the United States; the difference in ways survivors and resisters were treated; their families in the United States; Aron’s work in the steel mills and experiencing antisemitism there; Aron’s trouble finding work; Aron opening and working in various stores in Chicago; Lisa’s father and brother living in Munich, Germany and then moving to Chicago; the death of Lisa’s father; Lisa’s involvement with her children’s lives and education; ideals and morals they used to raise their sons; speaking to their grandchildren about the Holocaust; traveling to Cologne, Germany in 1968 to testify against Nazis; and their dedication to Holocaust education.

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Derman, Lisa Nussbaum
Derman, Aron
Covino, Gary
interview:  1997 November 22
3 sound cassettes (74 min.).
Credit Line
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Collection, courtesy of the Jeff and Toby Herr Foundation
Record last modified: 2022-07-28 18:28:07
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