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Oral history interview with Renata Zisman

Oral History | Digitized | Accession Number: 1995.A.1280.15 | RG Number: RG-50.225.0015

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    Oral history interview with Renata Zisman

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    Interview Summary
    Renata Zisman, born circa 1924 in Żywiec, Poland, describes growing up in an affluent family; their strong Polish identity and interest in music; having cordial relations with non-Jews; living in Bielsko-Biała; the German invasion; relocating to Kraków and thinking it was safer; ghettoization; forced labor; an informal music group; the deportation of her parents in October 1942; her parent's friend caring for her and her sister (she married him after the war); being sent to Płaszów; experiencing humiliation and abuse by an SS man; slave labor; Amon Goeth tearing her earrings out; a Polish civilian worker giving her extra food and sharing it with her sister; declining a Polish woman's offer to hide her, fearing other prisoners and her sister would be killed in retribution; being transferred to Auschwitz/Birkenau; losing hope for survival; slave labor in a factory; volunteering for the camp orchestra; the conductor teaching her the double bass; remaining with her sister at night; train transport and a death march to Ravensbrück in January 1945; being transferred to Neustadt-Glewe three months later; liberation in May; returning to Poland hoping to find their parents; her career as a music teacher; learning ten years ago that her parents were killed in Belzec; having chronic fears as a result of her experiences; frequently discussing the Holocaust with her sister and husband; and her recent visits to the camps as a guest of the German government.
    Interviewee
    Renata Zisman
    Interviewer
    Barbara Engelking-Boni
    Date
    interview:  1995 May 14
    Credit Line
    United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Collection, courtesy of the Jeff and Toby Herr Foundation

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    Polish
    Genre/Form
    Songs and music
    Extent
    4 videocassettes (U-Matic) : sound, color ; 3/4 in..

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    Provenance
    Nathan Beyrak conducted the interview with Renata Zisman in Poland in May 14, 1995, for the Poland Documentation Project. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Archives received the tapes of the interview in January 1996.
    Funding Note
    The production of this interview was made possible by Jeff and Toby Herr.
    The cataloging of this oral history interview has been supported by a grant from the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany.
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    Oral history interview with Jadwiga Gawroinsk

    Oral History

    Jadwiga Gawroinsk, born in 1923 in Lublin, Poland, describes being one of three children; her family's affluence; attending Polish school; having cordial relations with non-Jews; the German invasion; ghettoization; moving to Melgiew in the summer of 1941; her future husband joining them; visiting friends and relatives in the Lublin ghetto; obtaining authentic documents as non-Jews; the round-ups of Jews from nearby villages in October 1942; returning to Lublin; her father leaving and being robbed enroute (she never saw him again); her father’s non-Jewish, former employer arranging to include her mother and sister as Polish forced laborers in Germany; hiding with her husband; feeling relatively safe going out since she did not look Jewish; moving to Warsaw with funds from her husband's very wealthy family; moving frequently to avoid detection; receiving assistance from many non-Jews and underground members; moving with her husband and his younger sister to a rescuer's summer home in Zielonka in November; returning to Warsaw in March 1943, fearing detection; meeting escapees from the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising; printing underground papers; visiting friends in Hotel Polski (they were killed); her husband joining partisans in the forest (he was killed); receiving funds from Żegota; a Gestapo interrogation during which a German “race expert” declared her a non-Jew; moving to Łuków with her brother; liberation by Soviet troops in July 1944; moving to Józefów; getting married to a non-Jewish Pole; reuniting with her mother and sister in 1945; the fates of her relatives and the many non-Jews who helped her; having nightmares from her experiences; continuing her contact with rescuers, friends, and relatives in Poland and abroad, including her first husband's family; experiencing antisemitism in 1968; believing her survival was due to good luck; and losing her belief in God after the Holocaust.

    Oral history interview with Henryk Prais

    Oral history interview with Henryk Prais

    Oral History

    Henryk Prais, born in 1916 in Góra Kalwaria, Poland, discusses his father's death when Henryk was a baby; cordial relations with non-Jews; attending six years of Polish school; participating in Hapoel Hamizrachi; apprenticing as a tailor; working for a Catholic; being drafted into the military in November 1937; serving in an elite unit in Suwałki; becoming an officer; transferring to Raczki; the German invasion; skirmishes in Cimochy and elsewhere; being transferred to Hrodna; being captured by Soviet troops in Shchuchyn in September; doing forced labor; being released in December; returning home via Warsaw; forced labor assignments from the Judenrat; ghettoization; escaping to the Magnuszew ghetto; obtaining false papers from a priest with help from a Polish friend; being sent to a labor camp; escaping to Magnuszew in December 1943; learning his mother died in the Warsaw ghetto when visiting his brother and sister in Głowaczów (he never saw them again); being warned to leave; a poor woman hiding him in Podwierzbie, even from Narodowe Siły Zbrojne, a Polish nationalist group (he had her recognized by Yad Vashem); liberation by Soviet troops; seeing the flames from the Warsaw uprising; believing he was one of the only Jews left; working for the Soviets in Podłez; returning to Gora Kalwaria in 1945 to join other survivors; his marriage; Poles who hid Jews in Sokółka; many Poles who risked their lives for Jews; the influence and escape of the Chasidic rebbe, Abraham Alter, from Góra Kalwaria; and Jewish pilgrimages there to this day.

    Oral history interview with Konrad Skarzynski

    Oral history interview with Konrad Skarzynski

    Oral History

    Konrad Skarzynski, born in 1940 in Poland, describes the orphanage records which document that he was found abandoned in the Warsaw ghetto; being taken to an orphanage by a Polish policeman; being transferred to a convent orphanage outside of Warsaw; living in thirteen orphanages until he was 18 years old; experiencing ostracism and abuse from peers and staff, including some Catholic clergy; being frequently hungry; his inability to form emotional bonds; unsuccessfully seeking help; attending special education classes; working for a year, then being fired due to not having official documents; his military enlistment at age 19; being discharged after six months for health reasons; experiencing frequent beatings while sleeping in a Warsaw railroad station during 15 years of homelessness; suicide attempts; hospitalization for mental illness; obtaining official identity documents through a court procedure; finding an apartment; having a brief marriage; receiving help from a Jewish organization and monetary compensation from Germany; unsuccessfully searching for his parents; and participating in a "Children of the Holocaust" organization.

    Oral history interview with Samuel Wachtel

    Oral history interview with Samuel Wachtel

    Oral History

    Samuel Wachtel, born in 1913 in Kraków, Poland, discusses his early life; attending a Polish school; having cordial relations with non-Jews; the picketing of Jewish stores; the German invasion; being arrested with Poles and Jews in early September 1939; being detained at Gestapo headquarters, then Montelupich prison; the release of the non-Jewish prisoners; being transferred to Troppau (Opava, Czech Republic); encountering Gustaw Morcinek, a prominent Polish writer; being transferred to Sachsenhausen some two years later; the separation of Jews; a sadistic barrack commander; the loss of his toes due to severe cold; the relations between prisoner groups; slave labor in a quarry; being transferred to Gross-Rosen; the frequent deaths and beatings; being transferred to Auschwitz in 1942; working in Buna/Monowitz; the selections; being tattooed; meeting and helping two friends from Kraków; becoming head of a Kommando; a severe beating; being transferred to Janina (Janinagrube) as punishment for smuggling food; returning to Auschwitz; the death march in January 1945; escaping and receiving help from a farmer; liberation by Soviet troops; returning to Kraków; unsuccessfully seeking his relatives; receiving help from Polish friends; getting married; details of camp life and his state of mind; sharing his experiences with his children; his reluctance to be videotaped; his participation in ceremonies at Auschwitz; and his membership in the Association of the Former Political Prisoners.

    Oral history interview with Leopold Koslowski

    Oral history interview with Leopold Koslowski

    Oral History

    Leopold Koslowski, born in 1918 in Przemyslany, Poland (now Peremyshliany, Ukraine), discusses his family's history as famous klezmer musicians; attending a multi-ethnic school; his studies in L'viv; his friendships with non-Jews; the Soviet occupation; the German invasion; escaping east; returning home after the Germans overtook them; the formation of the ghetto and Judenrat; working in a hospital; a mass killing which included his father; building a bunker under their house; hiding in an outhouse, which still haunts him, and in the bunker; receiving food from non-Jewish friends; reluctance to escape from the ghetto; escaping execution after playing music for the German police; being deported to Jaktorów concentration camp; working in the Krosenko (Korosne) quarry; playing in a camp band; under threat of severe punishment, teaching an SS-guard to play a waltz; a German for whom he played bringing his mother to Jaktorów; being transferred to Kurowice (Kurovichi); being abused while playing to a group of drunken Germans; making contact with A.K. partisans; stealing weapons for the AK; his mother being shot during his escape to the partisans with his brother; fighting Germans and Ukrainian partisans; writing songs and playing for his platoon; returning to Peremyshliany; moving to L'viv; joining the Polish Peoples Army; playing for the soldiers; meeting American troops at the Laba River; living in Kraków; organizing a singing and dancing group; studying conducting at the Academy of Music; becoming the music director of the Jewish Theater in Warsaw; and writing songs and music for film and theater.

    Oral history interview with Tushia Silbering

    Oral history interview with Tushia Silbering

    Oral History

    Tushia Silbering, born in 1925 in Kraków, Poland, describes her assimilated childhood; vacationing in Zakopane in the summer of 1939; the German invasion; the street killings of Jews; her mother's murder in November 1939; her father sending her to another city; a mass killing; returning to Kraków; living with her father and brother in the ghetto; being transferred to Płaszów when the ghetto was liquidated; working in Oskar Schindler's factory; the benign conditions compared to Płaszów; being deported to Birkenau; being transferred to Auschwitz; a death march to Buchenwald; forced labor at Hasag-Leipzig; being transferred to Ravensbrück; abandonment by the guards in a forest; liberation by American troops; the abusive behavior by Soviet troops; returning to Kraków; a futile search for relatives; receiving assistance from nuns and her father's friends; attending school; getting married; having recurring nightmares; her husband's reluctance for her to share her experiences with him or their son; her son's exposure to antisemitic epithets; having no regrets concerning their decision to remain in Poland; attempting to organize a memorial at Płaszów; her assertion that no one can understand or imagine her life who has not had similar experiences; and her pain at not knowing her father's or brother's fate.

    Oral history interview with Edwin Opoczynski

    Oral history interview with Edwin Opoczynski

    Oral History

    Edwin Opoczynski, born in 1918 in Kraków, Poland, recalls his father's career as a physician; living an assimilated lifestyle; attending medical school in 1936 under a Jewish quota; his affinity for leftist organizations; the street attacks on Jewish students; the German invasion; briefly fleeing east; returning home; working in the Jewish hospital; obtaining food from non-Jewish friends; ghettoization; round-ups and deportations; transfer with his family to Płaszów; volunteering for transfer after two weeks; working with medical staff in Szebnie; being deported to Birkenau in November 1943; a friend from Kraków arranging his assignment to be in the hospital; encountering his mother and sister (they were Schindler Jews) the night before he was transferred to Oranienburg in November 1944; being transferred to Buchenwald, then Crawinkel; receiving extra food from Serbian POWs and a friend; a death march to Litoměřice; liberation in May; traveling home; reuniting with his father, mother, and sister; resuming his studies; his military service; his two marriages; his parents' and sister's immigration to Israel in the late 1950s; sharing his experiences with his sons; attributing his survival to luck; exacting revenge on German prisoners in 1945; meeting frequently with fellow survivors; having recurring dreams; and his ongoing commitment to socialism.

    Oral history interview with Albin Matysiak

    Oral history interview with Albin Matysiak

    Oral History

    Albin Matysiak, a Roman Catholic bishop born in 1917 in Kocoń, Poland, describes his family; his family purchasing a business from Jewish friends; attending seminary in Kraków; receiving respectful treatment from Jews because he was a priest; the Polish hostility toward Jews due to economic reasons; his chaplaincy at a nursing home staffed by the Sisters of Charity; the German invasion; hiding Jews in the nursing home; the Mother Superior providing false papers; the relocation of the nursing home to Szczawnica by the Germans; realizing many townspeople knew Jews were hidden and did not divulge it; the postwar control of Poland by the Soviet Union; his contacts with the families of the hidden Jews; receiving the "Righteous Among Nations" medal at the instigation of the daughter of a Jew he hid; Polish-Jewish relations; antisemitism; the role of Jews in the history and culture of Poland; theological developments in the dialogue between the Catholic Church and Judaism; the success of Pope John Paul II, with whom he worked for twenty years, in attaining increased unity and sensitivity among ethnic and religious groups; and the influence of the Holocaust on Judeo-Christian relations.

    Oral history interview with Krystyna Gil

    Oral history interview with Krystyna Gil

    Oral History

    Krystyna Gil, a Romani born in 1938 in Szczurowa, Poland, recalls the her family’s cordial relations with Poles; the mass killings on July 3, 1943 of the men, women, and children, including her parents and siblings; escaping with her grandmother while the Germans were taking a break; returning home; seeing her grandfather's corpse where he had been shot; traveling to Rzemienowice; posing as Poles; moving to Pawłowice; living a year and a half with a Pole who knew their identity; hiding two Jewish men who were shot after leaving; liberation by Soviet troops; moving to another city, then returning to Szczurowa several years later; attending elementary and vocational school; moving to Nowa Huta; marrying a Romani; her gratitude to her grandmother; maintaining Romani cultural life; her presidency of the Kraków Romani association; the lack of unity among the Romanies; a monument to the murdered Romanies in Szczurowa; commemorative activities there and in Auschwitz/Birkenau; the lack of compensation to Romani victims; and sharing her experiences with her grandchildren.

    Oral history interview with Franciszek Nowak

    Oral history interview with Franciszek Nowak

    Oral History

    Franciczek Nowak, a non-Jew born in 1923 in Kraków, Poland, discusses his parents hiding a Jewish couple immediately after an attack on a cafe frequented by the Germans; his family's active participation in the Armia Krajowa, Polish Underground; the family’s decision to keep the couple in hiding; the woman attending church with his mother; his father obtaining false papers and employment for the couple; smuggling Jews and others to the Czech border; receiving letters threatening to expose them; staging a mock arrest and trial of the blackmailers with other AK members; ceasing their underground activities due to the danger and sending the couple elsewhere; observing ghetto conditions from a streetcar; a postwar reunion with the Jewish couple his family hid; receiving the "Righteous Among the Nations" medal in Israel from Yad Vashem at the initiative of the couple; his regrets that others they helped did not contact them after the war; other Poles who helped Jews; and photographs and letters from the couple in Israel.

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