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Oral history interview with Sonia Brodecki

Oral History | Digitized | Accession Number: 1995.A.1269.2 | RG Number: RG-50.470.0002

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    Oral history interview with Sonia Brodecki
    Transcript
    So why don't you start?
    Tell me where you were, and what was going on,
    and how you came to be liberated.
    I was in 3 concentration camps, in Güntherbrücke Kletendorf,
    and Ludwigsdorf in Germany.
    The last one was ammunition place.
    I was making ammunition.
    And my whole body was green, blue-green from the powder.
    But I will tell you, the last night,
    it was the 7th May, 1945.
    The oldest in the Lager came, and she
    said, you should be very quiet and lie down,
    because we're going to blow up the whole camp.
    But thank god, the 8th of May, the Russians
    came and liberated us.
    May 8, 1945.
    We couldn't really believe it when it happened.
    But I remember that when the Russians came,
    my girlfriend opened the door, and she spoke.
    She was from Odessa.
    But she came to Europe to see her grandmother.
    And then-- you know, that was when the war started and then
    got in concentration camp.
    And she opened the gate and she said
    to the Russians, [RUSSIAN].
    And they open the gate, and you are free.
    You know, we couldn't believe it.
    And we didn't know what to do with ourselves.
    Where we going to go?
    Who do we have?
    I want to go home.
    I was naive, I was believing that maybe my mother,
    or my father, or my brother are still there.
    That's what kept me going in concentration camp.
    I was hoping.
    And I remember, whenever I got upset,
    I went back home in my mind.
    That's what helped me.
    I even went back to Poland, but everybody was slaughtered.
    Didn't have anybody.
    So I just turned around and went back to Germany.
    Before we do that, tell me-- right after the liberation,
    what kinds of things--
    how did things get organized?
    You know, did you get new clothes?
    No.
    Get a toothbrush?
    No.
    I remember that it was four girls--
    Giza, Tonya.
    Gisa, Tonya, Sarah, and myself.
    And we got together and we went from Ludwigsdorf to Waldenburg.
    And there, we just found our apartment.
    And we moved.
    We just moved to our apartment.
    And we found brooches.
    And I don't remember those things.
    I don't remember.
    And I think we were helped by--
    somebody had to help us.
    Because we didn't have any money,
    we didn't have any clothes, we didn't have anything.
    I don't remember those things.
    OK.
    Now, tell me about--
    tell me about the trip back to Poland.
    I didn't have any papers.
    I didn't have any money.
    But somebody went--
    I got a letter from my cousin from Poland.
    If I come back home, they will see that I go back to school,
    and I get lessons.
    And I was very, you know, I was looking forward
    to hear something like that.
    And I was very eager to do something like that.
    And I went back to Poland.
    We had a candy factory in Poland.
    And I went back, they were working.
    My cousin was there and people were working.
    But I couldn't be there because everything
    wherever I went remind me of my parents.
    And everybody said, oh, you are here.
    We are so glad to see you.
    And I went to friends of mine parents
    who had things from my mother who want to give it to me.
    And I said, I don't need them.
    You keep them.
    Where I'm going to take them?
    And one day, I just disappear.
    Didn't say anything to my cousin, just went.
    And I'm glad I did.
    Tell me, when you went back, were you afraid?
    You weren't afraid?
    There was no antisemitism?
    You're not afraid of anything, you just hope for the best.
    I was hoping that I had my parents.
    I didn't think about things like that.
    I just want to go home and see somebody, see my mother,
    my father, my brother, somebody.
    That's what kept me going.
    So when you went back, there wasn't any antisemitism?
    Yes it was.
    Tell me about it.
    Because-- not toward me.
    But I heard, when they said, are you still alive?
    I was thinking that it's like every one of the Jews.
    It was.
    But you know.
    And so then tell me how you ended up
    coming back, and ending up at Landsberg DP camp.
    I just didn't know.
    I met one of my girlfriends, and we just traveled together.
    Then we went to Landsberg.
    We went.
    How did you travel?
    By train.
    We didn't have any money, by train.
    How did that work?
    How could you get on trains?
    How did I?
    I don't remember, we just went.
    When somebody saw-- nobody stopped
    and nobody asked questions.
    It was just after the war.
    Few days, you know, maybe two weeks after the war.
    Tell me about Landsberg, what it was like to live there.
    To me, when I came to Landsberg, we
    had the apartment with my girlfriend.
    And later, I met my husband.
    I mean, I accept everything.
    You had to.
    You had to be very positive, doesn't matter
    that everything was wrong.
    But you have to think for the best.
    Could you come and go?
    Were there marks?
    Yes, you could come and go wherever you want to go.
    You could go to school.
    They had art in DP camp, they had other organization
    who helped.
    I was knitting.
    I was knitting little things and we were sending it to Israel.
    In the DP camp, was there barbed wire around?
    No, not in the DP camp--
    What about--
    --where I was.
    --the attitude of the Germans outside the DP camp?
    Were you afraid of them?
    Were you afraid when you went out?
    No, I was not afraid.
    I didn't go too much out.
    But when I went out, I was not afraid.
    Tell me about the incident with your--
    how you met your husband.
    We went dancing one night.
    I had little cafes.
    And people were playing music.
    And it was a Greek who came to our place
    and put a knife on the table.
    And he said, if I'm not going to marry him,
    he's going to hurt me.
    And we called the police, and my husband came.
    And that's how I met him.
    And tell me what happened after that.
    What did this Greek do to you?
    Didn't do anything to me.
    It was just-- gee, I'm embarrassed.
    Tell me about it.
    He really didn't do anything to me.
    He just organized a whole Greek group
    and I just attacked us, myself and my husband.
    I remember they broke mine, too, there was nothing.
    But they were nice people, anyhow.
    Just you know, if somebody instigates you,
    sometimes you believe him.
    After that first time that you met your husband,
    when did you see him again?
    The next day.
    He wrote me poems.
    I'm sorry I didn't bring it with me, I still have one.
    Tell me what else happened with him.
    Tell me about this.
    I just knew my husband three month and I married him.
    And we will be married 50 years this December.
    He's my best friend.
    Tell me about the time before the wedding.
    Tell me about the things you did together in Landsberg.
    Like young couples, you go dancing, you see each other,
    you go for walks.
    But I will tell you something.
    After the war, we were walking on the street,
    and young men were approaching you and kissing you.
    Ladies, I apologize to you.
    Oh, I was thinking you were my cousin or you're my sister.
    You look like that in the back, you know.
    It was after the war, after the liberation.
    We're just about going to run out.
    I think we should probably put another roll on.
    OK.
    Camera roll number two is up, slate two is up.
    Still two.
    Wonderful.
    Put another roll on.
    OK.
    Camera number two is up, slate two is up.
    Still two.
    Wonderful.
    OK.
    Two.
    In Landsberg, do you remember the American commander,
    a man named Major Heimont?
    Did you ever see him?
    I think I have his book.
    Heimont.
    Heimont.
    I don't.
    I wouldn't remember things like that.
    What about-- do you remember when David Ben
    Gurion came and visited?
    My husband remember.
    He gave him a letter to take to somebody.
    He remember.
    Do you remember him talking?
    I remember that he came but I didn't see him.
    Tell me, do you remember that the camp got decorated?
    The camp got decorated and people were ecstatic, so happy,
    and running around.
    But I don't know if I had a child.
    I don't remember.
    I couldn't go.
    How did they decorate the camp?
    With paper, I think, with colorful paper.
    Such a long time, I really don't remember.
    Major Heimont says that they took all his toilet paper
    and decorated all the trees when Ben Gurion came.
    Like I said, decorated with colored paper,
    with different things.
    I really don't, I wasn't there.
    But I remember that that was such a big fuss.
    They were screaming and they were so happy, everybody.
    They were meeting.
    Tell me about the wedding.
    Which wedding?
    Your wedding.
    The first wedding in Landsberg with your husband.
    Describe to me the wedding.
    I didn't have a dress.
    Somebody brought a dress.
    Somebody brought me a veil.
    I really don't know who it was.
    And we didn't have any money so we
    couldn't buy any-- people were baking and cooking.
    Somebody brought drinks from Berlin.
    And so many people, so much music.
    That were playing off-key.
    But it's such a long time, I can't remember.
    But those things I remember, just few.
    How did he ask you to marry him?
    This I don't remember.
    Who married you?
    First we got married--
    the first wedding was in Landshut, not in Landsberg.
    Was in Landshut.
    I had to have somebody who signed for me.
    I had to have a father, you know, because I was--
    you know, I was 16, 16 and a few months.
    So we went to the city hall and got married.
    We got married three times.
    So somebody said we should have a religious wedding.
    So on December--
    January the 27th, we got the religious wedding,
    two weddings.
    Mine with a friend and ours together.
    But we were married by a rabbi.
    And before we came to America, we
    had to get another wedding, another.
    So but was one of them in the Landsberg itself?
    Yeah, one was in Landsberg.
    The religious wedding was in Landsberg.
    Describe that.
    Who came?
    Everybody.
    Everybody came.
    Everybody from the DP camp.
    I don't know how many thousands of people.
    Everybody.
    Well, they were coming and going and coming and going.
    It was very exciting.
    Why was it exciting?
    Because we saw so many people after the war.
    We had music, we had food.
    We could exchange wishes.
    Was that wedding like starting over again--
    Yes.
    --for you?
    For me it was like starting over again.
    Because I was not by myself, I had
    somebody who loved me, who was there with me,
    who was taking care of me.
    He does until still.
    When you went back to Poland, one time
    when you told about it, you said your heart was beating.
    Yes.
    Describe that.
    When I came to Poland, to the city I am from,
    I went down from the train and I call--
    I came on the street where we had our candy shop.
    You know, we had a [POLISH],, candy shop.
    And I just looked at it.
    And I remember, I was going on those streets,
    I was going to the movies, we took
    walks there with my parents, with my brother.
    And I called a carriage, and they took me
    where I was living.
    And my heart was pumping, how do you say it?
    Palpitation?
    Because everything comes back to you.
    Even if you suppress things, they are back.
    And now, just tell me something about how long
    you've been with your husband, starting
    from that point in Landsberg.
    How long has that lasted?
    And how many children do you have?
    We got married in 1945.
    Like I said, December the 21st.
    And today is what?
    February the 10th, 1995?
    We are still together, thank god.
    We're going to be together for always.
    50 years in December.
    Can you think of anything else about the wedding?
    How did people organize the food?
    People were baking.
    Just strangers were bringing things.
    And I had a cousin who was baking, who knew how to bake,
    and he was baking.
    And everybody was bringing something.
    You know, right after the War, three or four months
    after the war, everybody was excited.
    It's like, life goes on, you know, we made it.
    We are here.
    Because all of us, well, we couldn't
    understand that our parents perished, we are still here.
    We felt very guilty about it.
    Which we still do.
    We shouldn't, but we do.
    So everyone just pitched in and helped for the wedding?
    Yes, yes.
    How did you guys tell everyone you were getting married?
    How did people know?
    Oh, people tell each other about good stuff, good things.
    Tell me how that works in the DP camp.
    One tells the other.
    When you tell somebody something nice and good,
    he decided to share with somebody else, which was good.
    Do you remember the newspaper in Landsberg?
    Was there a newspaper in Landsberg?
    It's possible.
    It's possible there was.
    When you lived in Landsberg, did you
    have private enough quarters?
    Yeah, we had one room.
    I remember, we get up in the morning,
    and it was very cold winter time.
    We didn't have heat at the winter.
    The water was frozen and glasses.
    But we were very happy, we were free.
    We were looking to the future.
    We were hoping for the best.
    All of us, we want to form families.
    OK.
    Tell me again the story of going to the dance and how
    you met your husband.
    Oh, I didn't meet my husband on the dance.
    He came to our apartment where we were
    living because we called him.
    I didn't call him, somebody called him
    that a Greek is there, a man is there who is disturbing,
    who is threatening me.
    I don't know if my girlfriend called
    or somebody from the neighbors.
    See, it was a barrack.
    I don't know what is a barrack in English.
    It's-- Yeah?
    OK.
    It's a barrack.
    And somebody called, and he came.
    Then we became friends right then.
    Start back at the dance and how you left
    and the Greek followed you and threatened you with a knife.
    Tell me that again.
    We went to a dance in the camp.
    And so were playing, we were dancing, we were talking.
    And I don't remember.
    I remember I talked with him later.
    He came to our place and he said I should marry him.
    And I said, I don't know you.
    I barely know you.
    And he was threatening.
    Well, I guess that somebody called the police.
    He threatened you with a knife?
    Tell me how he did that.
    He put the knife on the table.
    That's why I called them Greco Bandito.
    I shouldn't do this.
    Because they were nice people.
    I don't remember the details.
    It's such a long time.
    OK.
    Thank you, Sonia.
    Oh, you're very welcome.
    Which means we record just the sound of the room very quietly.
    So we just sit very quietly for 30 seconds.

    Overview

    Interview Summary
    Sonia Brodecki describes how she was in three concentration camps during the Holocaust, including camps in Kindabricka, Kletendorf, and Ludwigsdorf; how in Ludwigsdorf she made ammunition and her whole body was blue-green from the powder; how she was warned on May 7, 1945 that they were going to blow up the camp, but the Russians liberated them the next day; how she had kept up her hope in the camps by envisioning her return home; how she and three friends went to Waldenburg, Germany; going home and learning her immediate family was dead; details on how she felt when she first arrived in her home city; going to the displaced persons (DP) camp in Landsberg, Germany; knitting items in the DP camp to be sent to Israel; meeting her future husband in the DP camp and their courtship; how he wrote her poems; how they married after knowing each other three months; her wedding in the camp on December 21, 1945 and how people brought baked goods and played music; their initial legal marriage in Landshut, Germany; and how the wedding was like starting over again.
    Interviewee
    Zelda P. Brodecki
    Interviewer
    Sandra Bradley
    Date
    interview:  1995 February 13

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    English
    Extent
    1 videocassette (D2) : sound, color ; 3/4 in..

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    Sandra Bradley, a film production consultant for the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, conducted the interview with Sonia Brodecki on February 13, 1995, in preparation for the exhibition "Liberation 1945," which opened in June 1995. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Archives received a copy of the interview on August 25, 1995.
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    The cataloging of this oral history interview has been supported by a grant from the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany.
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    Oral history interview with Henry Kanner

    Oral History

    Henry Kanner discusses being in Auschwitz working in the laundry when he was 15 or 16 years old; the death of his family members in the Belzec gas chambers; being taken in January 1945 on a death march; conditions during the march, including the extreme cold and the deaths of many of the prisoners; killing a pig on the second day and eating it raw with other prisoners; being put in an open-air train car; arriving at Mauthausen; encountering a prisoner who had once worked for Henry’s father; the man saving Henry’s life by changing his information in the registry and telling him to pose as a Polish Catholic; noticing the SS officers either disappearing or changing into regular Wehrmacht uniforms in May 1945; three American soldiers who were shot down, beaten, and thrown into the gas chambers; the day of liberation; the capture of many of the German guards; leaving the camp on foot with another boy; walking to Linz, Austria; going to Passau, Germany, where they were captured by German farmers and escaping before being shot by the farmers; staying in a displaced persons (DP) camp in Passau (possibly Pocking DP camp); going to a DP camp in Nurnberg, Germany; working in the office with a US Army captain, who was a representative of UNRRA; conditions in the DP camp; details on the emigration of people from the camp; immigrating to the US, where he had relative; getting married and having three sons; and feeling lucky as well as guilty to have survived.

    Oral history interview with Abraham Klausner

    Oral history interview with Abraham Klausner

    Oral History

    Rabbi Abraham J. Klausner discusses being attached to the 116 Evacuation Hospital during WWII; entering Dachau concentration camp in May 1945; arriving at night, and seeing the devastation in the morning; the efforts they all made to bring the survivors back to life; helping to organize lists to name survivors as well as their places and dates of birth; how people were helped to get to Italy where they could get on ships to Palestine; finding Hungarian women survivors in a displaced persons (DP) camp in the Alps; learning how former inmates hid prayer books while living in the camps; finding a Polish Hebrew library in Munich, Germany that had been confiscated by the Nazis and taking a few books at a time and distributing them to people; finding the Klausenburg rebbe in Dachau, nursing him back to health, and bringing him to Feldafing DP camp; seeing Jewish and non-Jewish survivors in the DP camps; the administration of the camps; the DP camps Feldafing and Landsberg am Lech; the issues with the mixed nationalities in the camps; segregation in the camps; the lack of freedom in the camps; the compulsion people felt to find their family members; a center that was set up in Munich where people could search for family on lists; the efforts to reconnect children with their parents; finding a printer in Landsberg and getting books published and distributed; helping to establish a newspaper in Feldafing along with journalist Shalatin Levy from Kovno (Kaunas, Lithuania); meeting with David Ben Gurion in Munich, and taking him to St. Ottilien hospital, Landsberg, and Feldafing; and working near Dachau for several years with the US Army.

    Oral history interview with John Komski

    Oral history interview with John Komski

    Oral History

    John Komski discusses being taken to Dachau concentration camp from camp Hersbruck and staying there for 20 days; being made to shower, but not being given anything to wear except a blanket; being in an area separated from the rest of the camp; finding on April 29, 1945 that the camp gates were open to the rest of the camp; finding clothes and standing for 2-3 hours for roll call, but no SS came; how the fighting began in the afternoon and then there was silence; some prisoners running to the gates, and some getting guns; a US soldier who came into the area and commanded that the guards surrender or be shot; how thousands of prisoners gathered and many had flags of different countries; seeing a glorious sunset with dark clouds in the east; some people lighting fires and cooking food; many of the former inmates dying from eating too much; being moved to a displaced persons (DP) camp; not being allowed to leave the DP camp; being very sick and moved to an American hospital; going to a DP camp outside of Munich in June 1945; UNRRA officials forcing people to be repatriated to their native countries; going to Garmisch, Germany; meeting an artist who was a former prisoner of Auschwitz, and receiving help from him; meeting his future wife; drawing and painting scenes from the concentration camps; and immigrating to the US.

    Oral history interview with Pat Lynch

    Oral history interview with Pat Lynch

    Oral History

    Pat Lynch discusses being an American nurse attached to the 123rd Field Evacuation Unit during WWII; being near a subcamp of Dachau; how the nurses did not go into Buchenwald because the conditions there were too terrible; going into the camp and being shocked by how horribly sick the survivors were, with typhus and TB; Germans from the area who were conscripted to work in the kitchens and laundries of the various DP camps; the young Hitler youth who marched in cemeteries; moving from tents to real buildings in the summer of 1945; praying often to St. Jude about the conditions; seeing a big difference in some of the survivors between March and August as they regained some strength and bodyweight; seeing a lot of Russian children in the summer; treating some pregnant women; being told that the women officers in the camps were often more cruel than the men; and her long working days during that time, which prevented her from speaking more with the patients.

    Oral history interview with William McWorkman

    Oral history interview with William McWorkman

    Oral History

    William McWorkman discusses being with the 12th Armored Division during WWII; going through Weilheim, Oberau, Innsbruck and south to Bringer Pass; entering into Landsberg concentration camp; seeing hundreds of dead prisoners; interacting with the former prisoners; the arrival of the 493rd Field Artillery Battalion; being told not to get too close to the prisoners because of typhus; giving the former prisoners clothing and food, but not too much food; the battalion surgeon who said not to overfeed them or they would die; the attempt to triage the survivors; General Allen, commander of the 12th division, entering the camp and later ordering all males in nearby village to walk through the camp; and his regret that they did not spend more time comforting the living.

    Oral history interview with James Moncrief

    Oral history interview with James Moncrief

    Oral History

    James Moncrief discusses being a Lt. Colonel during WWII; working as a staff officer in general headquarters when the 11th Army overran Buchenwald; leaving supplies and a medical company at the camp; being sent to the camp by Captain Bennett; conditions in the camp; the crematoria; and the US soldiers’ awareness of the camps.

    Oral history interview with Judah Nadich

    Oral history interview with Judah Nadich

    Oral History

    Rabbi Judah Nadich discusses being a chaplain in the US Army during WWII; being stationed in Paris, France, where among other activities, he helped 600 Jewish survivors go from Germany to illegal ships in Marseilles to get to Palestine; being asked to be the liaison officer to General Eisenhower to coordinate efforts to help the Jewish survivors in August 1945; being stationed in Frankfurt; the Jewish survivors in the American zone and the displaced persons camps (DP camps); differences between the DP camps; the unforeseen problems in the DP camps; inspecting the DP camps in August-September 1945; food and medicine in the DP camps; the running of the camps by UNRRA ,the Joint, and the military; immigration of the refugees; and visiting camps with David Ben Gurion.

    Oral history interview with George Salton

    Oral history interview with George Salton

    Oral History

    George Salton discusses being a prisoner of the Nazis; being liberated from camp Wöbbelin in the spring of 1945 and his memories of that day; the prisoners’ fears that the Germans would return; a soldier who shared his rations with George; his attempts to contact his relatives, including his brother; going to the British zone in Lübeck; staying in the Neustadt displaced persons camp (DP camp); the different refugees in the camp; being sponsored by his relatives for immigration to the United States; living in Deggendorf, Germany until his paper to the US came through in 1947; and seeing German teenagers in Deggendorf before he emigrated and his feelings envy, pain, and loneliness, knowing he would never have normal teenage years.

    Oral history interview with Richard Seibel

    Oral history interview with Richard Seibel

    Oral History

    Colonel Richard R. Seibel, US Army veteran and participant in WWII, discusses being on a patrol when he came across the concentration camp Mauthausen; his lack of knowledge about concentration camps before seeing Mauthausen; reporting back to General Daiger who asked him to take supreme command of camp; the two Americans in the camp, one of whom was Lt Jack Taylor of the OSS; his memories of the camp; seeing corpses piled up; the unrest in the camp and division between the inmates; a former prisoner, Premislav Dobius, who was the interpreter for army; how the Jewish survivors wanted to be separated by their religion, not by nationality as the others were; members of a Swiss Zionist organization who arrived demanding the Jewish survivors be given their own space; the prevalence of typhus and TB; the deaths of hundreds of people after liberation; 400 Wehrmacht soldiers who were brought in to repair the sewage and water system; the conditions of women prisoners; the camp’s former SS commander Franz Ziereis who was absent from the camp before liberation; and the capture of Ziereis.

    Oral history interview with Milton Shurr

    Oral history interview with Milton Shurr

    Oral History

    Milton Shurr, US Army veteran and participant in WWII, discusses being part of a displaced persons team (DP2 unit) attached to the 1st Army beginning in the fall of 1944; being in Verviers, Belgium; his previous work as the head of a Jewish community counsel in Oklahoma City; the approximately 500 displaced persons; contracting hepatitis; rejoining the regiment in April 1945 in Wetzlar, Germany; going to Buchenwald; seeing barracks with two-story bunks and 6 people in each slot, buildings full of clothes and shoes, and piles of bodies; disinfecting survivors with DDT; the high rate of death for survivors; one of his colleagues who spoke German and acted as an interpreter, and how this affected the officer’s mental health; his work with administrative tasks; Allied prisoners being sent home; the desire for many survivors from eastern countries to not return home; the work of the Red Cross to reunite families; being told by the Joint to take care of about 2000 children; being in Buchenwald until the area of Thuringia was turned over to the Russians; and paying the Poles in the DP camp with cigarettes to run trucks.

    Oral history interview with Alfred Sundquist

    Oral history interview with Alfred Sundquist

    Oral History

    Dr. Alfred B. Sundquist, a major and physician with the XVIII Airborne during WWII, discusses being stationed a few miles from Ludwigslust, Germany; being instructed to go to a small concentration camp (Wöbbelin) and report back; arriving in a jeep, and seeing that the Germans had already left; conditions at the camp, which took up a few acres and had no crematoria and a couple of barracks; seeing corpses piled up and prisoners with striped uniforms who were too weak to get up; seeing the physical results of starvation in the former prisoners, including the loss of teeth and swollen legs; seeing evidence of cannibalism; writing a report recommending survivors be sent to apartments in Ludwigslust; many survivors dying from complications from starvation; the 82nd Airborne connecting to the 18th Airborne; the civilian Germans from the town being made to dig graves and attend funerals for the camp’s victims; taking pictures of the camp (he donated these pictures to USHMM); his thoughts on the local Germans of Ludwigslust; and his thoughts on Hitler’s mental health.

    Oral history interview with Fela Warschau

    Oral history interview with Fela Warschau

    Oral History

    Fela Warschau discusses being in a labor camp outside Hamburg at end of March 1945; being forced to clean streets after the city was bombed; being taken by train to Bergen-Belsen; the conditions in the camp; staying together with two friends and her sister; sharing a single potato amongst themselves for several days; liberation; survivors being disinfected and given different clothes; staying in Bergen-Belsen for two months; German doctors and nurses who were brought to the camp to work; her feelings of satisfaction seeing Germans being forced to help bury the dead; finding two of their cousins; hearing that her father had died at Auschwitz; going to Feldafing displaced persons camp; life in the DP camp; signing up for ORT courses; the tendency for survivors to marry each other; getting married in 1946; the differences between the American and British leaders of the DP camps; the children in the DP camp; and her thoughts on emigration.

    Oral history interview with Irene Weber

    Oral history interview with Irene Weber

    Oral History

    Irene Weber discusses being liberated from a prison in Czechoslovakia at the end of WWII; the Russians who liberated the prison; being deloused and sent to a hospital; being given a change of clothes and a little money; her decision to not return to Poland; staying in an apartment with a friend; registering as a Czech citizen; going to Prague in an attempt to leave the country after the communists took over; going to the American Zone of Germany; staying in Landsberg am Lech displaced persons camp; the crowded conditions in the DP camp; living in Rosenheim, Germany; working on a farm to pay rent; attending an ORT school for nursing in Föhrenwald; graduating and then working in a hospital in the DP camp in Pokcing where she cared for survivors; continuing to live in Rosenheim and taking the train to get to her job; and receiving assistance from UNRRA and the Joint even while she was working as a nurse.

    Oral history interview with Nick White

    Oral history interview with Nick White

    Oral History

    Nick White discusses being with the VI Corps, part of 7th Army, when he saw Dachau for the first time on April 29, 1945; going to the camp with his colleague Englehardt, who was a photographer and took pictures of the camp; seeing a trench in the camp filled with dead SS soldiers killed by American infantry which had been in the camp before them; being overrun by the survivors who were joyous to see them; giving out caramels and k-rations to the survivors; conditions in the barracks; a large room that led from the gas chambers where several thousand bodies were stacked up; the high rate of mortality for the survivors after liberation; finding 39 boxcars with corpses inside; and his incomprehension of the inhumanity they found.

    Oral history interview with Alan Zimm

    Oral history interview with Alan Zimm

    Oral History

    Alan Zinn discusses being sent from Buchenwald in January 1945 to Dora concentration camp; conditions in the camp; seeing American planes at end of March going to bomb Nordhausen; being taken by train for six days to Bergen-Belsen; the Russian POWs who set up a tribunal in the camp after liberation and executed about 50 SS guards; being liberated on March 29, 1945; the delousing of the inmates; the deaths of many survivors from typhus and other diseases; returning to Łódź, Poland in June 1945; meeting his future wife in Łódź; going with his wife and her two sisters to the displaced persons camp in Landsburg, Germany; reuniting with his brother; and immigrating to the United States.

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