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Oral history interview with Alan Zimm

Oral History | Digitized | Accession Number: 1995.A.1269.25 | RG Number: RG-50.470.0025

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    Oral history interview with Alan Zimm
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    Why don't you tell me about the reunion with your brother?
    Yes.
    OK.
    And start from the beginning, because we have to start fresh.
    When my wife's sisters were evacuated to west Germany
    to Landsberg, to a camp, a DP camp--
    I married the younger sister as my wife.
    So I went with her.
    We stayed in Munich.
    So I said, I want to go see the list of all the survivors.
    Munich had a headquarters.
    And the lists were printed on all the walls
    around the building inside.
    So I looked at my town, from my town--
    to Poland, and then my town.
    I noticed my brother is living.
    One of my brothers is survivor.
    And I also noticed a sister of my best friend
    who I went to school with before the war is also a survivor.
    And she is in that camp where my two sisters knows
    her there, in Landsberg.
    So I said, I'm going there right away.
    And by streetcar, it took about 20 minutes
    to get there, to the camp.
    And I went there.
    And I looked her up.
    And when she saw me, she just couldn't believe it.
    It was a very emotional reunion with her.
    And I said to her, you know what?
    My brother, Solomon, is living in the French zone.
    I don't know how to get to where he is.
    You say your brother Solomon?
    He is here.
    I say, here?
    Yeah, he came here, and he's in the camp.
    As a matter of fact, he stays in my room here.
    But he went out for the night to see a movie.
    They had movies showing in the camp.
    This is the American zone.
    So I said, a movie?
    I'm so exhausted, I said to her, and I want to go to sleep.
    And she said, well, lay down on the cot here.
    She had cots all over.
    That's your brother's cot.
    But we'll manage to get another one here.
    So I laid down, fell asleep.
    And about 11:30 at night, he comes back.
    He noticed I was asleep.
    He didn't know who I am.
    I'm nothing.
    She said to him, the friend, why don't you
    go over and look who is sleeping there?
    He looked.
    He said to her--
    he walked back to her, said, I don't know.
    I hadn't seen him for six years, my brother.
    She said, look again.
    Then he goes over to the other side of my face.
    And he said, that's my brother.
    He woke me up from my best sleep.
    And the reunion was so emotional.
    We were both crying without stop.
    And that's the way I met him after the war in Munich--
    then in Landsberg, I mean, the camp.
    And from then, I had to go back to Poland.
    I went back to Poland again from there.
    And later on, I came back to Germany
    And stayed with my brother in the French zone.
    He lived in French zone.
    And I took my wife there also.
    She was not my wife yet.
    But we got married in that small town in Germany, in Saulgau.
    It's a very small town near--
    not far from Constance, Bodensee.
    I know, here, that's a familiar town.
    In the wedding, we had to bring a rabbi from another town,
    from Ulm, also a DP camp.
    The big camp had a rabbi there.
    He came in to perform the wedding.
    It was outdoors.
    The whole small town came to that wedding, the Germans,
    because they haven't seen a wedding like that in 50 years,
    they say, in that little town.
    And we got married from there.
    And from there, we went back.
    We came to the United States.
    Tell me.
    Wasn't there a big religious ceremony?
    Yes.
    The rabbi performed a real orthodox ceremony,
    with breaking the glass, and everything.
    They say that was, for them, so unusual.
    The people were so anxious to see it.
    We lived with a German family there.
    And they said they haven't seen it
    for 50 years, a wedding like that in that town.
    Very few Jewish people lived there before the war even.
    There, only one person lived there, a very famous person.
    Albert Einstein's first cousin lived nearby
    in a little town near that little town, [INAUDIBLE]
    Einstein.
    I met him.
    I met him.
    He came to the wedding.
    We invited him.
    And he was at the wedding.
    It's a little town called Buchau.
    This is the only town in Germany where
    a synagogue had only a bell, a ringing bell like a church.
    This is the only synagogue in all of Germany
    who had a bell, a ringing bell.
    OK.
    Let's now go back a little bit to liberation.
    You said you thought it--
    Yeah.
    After we were liberated, what happened
    is they segregated everybody by nationality--
    Frenchmen in this block, Poles in this block,
    Russians in this, Czechs in this, Belgium here.
    And there were so many blocks, every block,
    it was many more that have two blocks for second groups.
    So our group was very small.
    So we stayed with the Poles together.
    We hanged out the flag, a Polish flag,
    and a blue and white flag, the Israeli flag
    in front of the barrack.
    Everybody had to hang out their flags.
    So we made it out from different pieces of cloth.
    So the Russian soldiers, officers,
    would form the honor guard and marched in unison--
    there were a group of about 30 of them--
    to every block, and saluted, and had a speech.
    The captain spoke.
    And when he came to our block, it was very moving.
    I can remember.
    He said-- the officer, he said, he knows what
    happened to the Jewish people.
    He knows what the Germans did.
    And he knows that you are a few of the survivors here.
    He knows also that we don't have a home where to go to.
    And he finished and saluted it.
    And it was very moving.
    We all cried.
    That was the incident, what happened after the liberation.
    Tell me a little bit about, in those first few weeks
    after liberation, did the British--
    did they help you--
    Yeah, the--
    --give you supplies like toothbrushes?
    Afterwards, about two weeks later,
    they brought in food and supplies, fed everybody.
    Kitchens were set up.
    You get food.
    And they processed you--
    the name, which country you came from, where we were.
    They gave you DP cards, identity cards.
    What about clothes, and toothbrush, and things like--
    did they give you--
    They give these things out, yes, to everybody.
    And they had put up running water in the blocks
    already, because there was no water running before.
    And they had also disinfection and lousing for people.
    They had that white powder.
    They sprayed it, everybody all over.
    And constantly, every week, they did that.
    They were afraid of typhus breaking out,
    which in the other camp, typhus broke out.
    It was a disease.
    It killed a lot of people there after the liberation.
    And also another incident-- there was a group of musicians
    in the camp during the war.
    The Germans had the prisoners, musicians.
    And they were Poles.
    There were about 30 of them, a group.
    And in that camp we are in-- it was a military camp, actually--
    there was a drugstore there in the camp.
    I didn't care about going to a drugstore.
    I didn't look for medicine.
    What happened is these Poles went into the drugstore,
    into the basement.
    They found bottles with alcohol and just loaded up,
    and took out the alcohol from the bottles, in bottles,
    and started to drink.
    And they didn't realize that was wood alcohol, the poisonous
    alcohol.
    And all of them got poisoned.
    After the liberation, 30 of these people died in the camp
    from wood alcohol poisoning.
    That was such a horrible thing to hear what--
    they were screaming and had convulsions.
    It was-- we couldn't-- we had to run away and hide in the rooms.
    What was going on?
    This was after the liberation these things happened.
    And what about a big religious ceremony after?
    After the liberation, what happened when we stayed there--
    we stayed a couple of weeks in Bergen-Belsen.
    We stayed there after the liberation.
    First of all, the war lasted another three weeks.
    But we stayed there about six more weeks.
    Well, they found out in a small town nearby called Celle,
    C-E-L-L-E--
    there was a small town where a German family
    with a small synagogue, and they hid it
    from the Nazis all these years and protected
    the Torah, the scroll, the holy books in the basement.
    And the British came and liberated it.
    And they went to the British and told them.
    There was a small synagogue here.
    We protected it.
    You shouldn't-- the synagogue was a little bigger than this
    house.
    And the British told us, we have to go there.
    It's looking out only for the Jewish prisoners,
    war prisoners.
    We were liberated.
    So we went there.
    And we told them-- they took us by truck
    there to the little town.
    It was about 10 miles away.
    And on Friday services, there was a British chaplain,
    a Jewish rabbi from the British army in a uniform.
    He went to the basement and took out the scroll, the Torah.
    And he walked up with the Torah to where the arc was--
    there was no scrolls in there--
    and made us walk behind him.
    And each row of the whole synagogue
    was British officers and soldiers.
    And they were making films of this.
    And we walked up on the bimah like a stage,
    where the Torahs are sitting under the curtain.
    And there was a table.
    And he laid down the scroll on the table.
    And he conducted the service, Friday night service.
    It was very moving.
    Even the English cried.
    And then they took us back to the camp.
    And we stayed there, like I told you.
    And later on, we left.
    [INAUDIBLE]
    OK.
    Go ahead and tell me about that.
    After, everybody grabbed the potatoes and turnips
    and went home to eat.
    It lasted only for about a day and a half.
    The following day, everybody was hungry again, no food.
    And nobody-- we're not liberated yet.
    So everybody was walking around in the camp,
    looking for something to eat.
    So the SS came and said to us on a loudspeaker,
    we have some bread and canned goods for you
    up there on trucks, waiting there.
    So everybody's running to that area.
    So the major from the SS, a doctor--
    you can tell he's a doctor, he wears special insignia here--
    came and stood in front of these trucks.
    And he said to us, please, do me a favor,
    do not touch any of that food.
    Do not touch it.
    Don't it don't take it, he said.
    Everybody said, why?
    It's all poisoned.
    You're all going to die if you eat that.
    So I just moved back with my friends, said, forget it.
    I'm not going to eat it.
    I lost a lot of weight in here.
    So a lot of them were screaming their heads off.
    We're going to die anyway from starvation.
    Better die with a full stomach.
    Some of them were saying that.
    So the general was pleading with them, the doctor.
    Please wait another 24 hours.
    You're going to be free.
    The English are going to be here.
    Nobody believed them either.
    People in those days were very--
    we saw so many things in the past.
    What the Germans were talking and doing
    were two different things.
    They always lied to you, the Germans.
    They'll tell you you're going to a lousing in a bath.
    And they were killing people there.
    That's why a lot of people don't realize, don't understand.
    How could so many people go without resistance,
    to fight against them?
    Because they misled people.
    They didn't tell you what they were doing.
    They had false signs on the doors, [NON-ENGLISH],,
    in those gas places.
    They were gassing people.
    And I was aware of these things already before.
    I was the first one, actually, to notify
    people what the Germans were doing with human beings,
    before Auschwitz existed.
    The day the Germans invaded Russia
    in June 1941, the same day, they started to kill Jewish people.
    In the town where I was born, nearby, a place called Chelmno,
    I was the only one--
    actually, with another man-- to escape from that place,
    from Kolo.
    When I arrived in Lodz in the ghetto
    to tell those people what happens to the people,
    they never believed it.
    Even the people in Lodz ghetto didn't believe
    what they were doing with them.
    They were going outside.
    Nobody volunteered.
    The Germans were telling, we need volunteers
    to go to the Russian territory.
    We occupied so much land.
    We need people to work on the farms.
    So they believed them.
    And they took them to kill them.
    That's the way they misled the people.
    They made people also lay down their clothes,
    and put the names on their clothes,
    and made the people pay money for the trucks,
    for the gasoline.
    They make them pay four marks for the gasoline to take them
    to the extermination.
    So everybody say, if they were going to kill us,
    why would they take the money from us?
    Why would they make us pay for gasoline?
    They made such the tricks.
    They used such psychology, how to get
    the people to be exterminated.
    So the people didn't realize what happened to them.
    But I knew already then.
    I knew already then not to trust them,
    because I had experience from back, from Chelmno where they
    were exterminating the people.
    But when I came to the ghetto in '42,
    the people, the leadership in the ghetto made me be quiet.
    Don't make panic in the ghetto.
    Be silent.
    They knew.
    I told them what happened, the leadership.
    And they survived the war because of me
    from the Lodz ghetto.
    I met them after the war--
    in Lodz, where I met my wife.
    How did you get out of Chelmno?
    I wasn't taken to Chelmno.
    What happened is in Kolo, in the city of Kolo,
    they started to take out groups--
    300 a day, 400 a day.
    So I grew up with Polish people together.
    I grew with--
    I lived with them together.
    I was next door neighbors with Poles.
    My best friends were Poles, went to school together.
    So one of those boys, my friend from school, his brother
    was taken by the Germans as a truck driver
    to take the people from the town to Chelmno.
    They say, from there, they're going to the Russian territory
    to work on farms.
    When he came back, he noticed they
    were taking the people from his truck and to put in the gas--
    to trucks, which has gas, carbon monoxide.
    The Germans had built special vans
    in the beginning, big vans.
    They could put 50 people in a van.
    And the exhaust pipe from the trucks,
    from the gas from the trucks, were going into the van inside.
    It was hermetically closed.
    And the carbon monoxide was killing the people inside.
    And from the trucks, from this truck, van,
    those truck drivers had to take the bodies out and take them
    into the wooded area where they had grabbed many people from
    the town, strong people, with already prepared ditches--
    dig ditches, big ditches--
    and threw the bodies in, and covered them up.
    And when he came back, he told me, listen, to me.
    My brother could not sleep all night.
    He wouldn't talk to nobody.
    He couldn't eat, what he saw there.
    So he crossed himself.
    He said, please, I gave my honor to my brother
    not to tell nobody.
    But I'm telling it to you.
    Do not go there.
    He wouldn't tell me the rest of it.
    But I found out later how they were doing it.
    They were killing all these people there.
    They killed 380,000 Jews there, the Germans, in Chelmno.
    That's before Auschwitz existed, before anybody knew anything,
    in 1941.
    After that happened, in December of '42,
    they're starting to kill the people.
    And I knew it already them.
    And I told to my brother and my sister--
    two sisters, I had.
    She survived in the Lodz ghetto with me.
    The rest of my family was killed also in Chelmno.
    So that's what happened.
    That's why I knew.
    That why I knew what they were doing.
    When I came to the ghetto, I already knew then.
    And the people in the ghetto didn't know anything.
    The leadership didn't know anything.
    When I was working in the ghetto in one place-- well,
    that's a long story.
    Going back to liberation for a minute,
    did the people pick up a Jeep?
    Yes.
    Tell me about that.
    When we were liberated, everybody
    was so enthusiastic, so emotional.
    People were so happy that they grabbed this Jeep
    and were carrying the Jeep.
    British soldiers got out.
    They were carrying the Jeep in the air, all the prisoners.
    They were so happy to see the British, that we were free.
    Finally, we're free.
    They were really free.
    Then they started to believe they're free.
    They were carrying this Jeep in the air,
    walking through the camp all around.
    That day is an unforgettable, unforgettable day,
    that we were so--
    on the other hand, when we realized later
    that we have nobody to go to, that was a different story.
    But the first two days, the emotional outburst,
    the happiness was indescribable.
    You cannot describe this, the emotions from the people,
    from the prisoners, from all the people.
    When they announce to you the first time in all these years
    that you are a human being.
    They are people.
    You're not treated like nobody, worse than animals.
    The Germans were petting their dogs while hanging people.
    They were petting their dogs, making nice to dogs,
    while the people were hanging.
    That's how brutal they were, how cynical.
    There were thousands of them doing like that.
    And after the war, they disappeared, a lot of them.
    Did you live in a DP camp at all?
    Yes, for a while.
    Were you in in Landsberg?
    Bergen-Belsen, yeah.
    I stayed there for about six weeks.
    But not Landsberg, when you went through there.
    No.
    Only the sisters stayed there.
    I went away from there.
    I lived in Berlin for a while with civilian family.
    It was a Jewish--
    the wife was Jewish, the husband was German.
    That's how they survived the war.
    And they had one son.
    And he was a friend of mine also.
    We stayed together a lot.
    I lost track of him and of the family afterwards.
    I lost track of a lot of people I haven't seen since then.
    I hope, when we go to Miami--
    now we have a gathering there next week--
    I'll meet some people I haven't seen him for so many years.
    OK.
    I think [AUDIO OUT].
    Let us get going.
    Ready.
    Number six.
    Set.
    When we looked out through the window,
    and we saw the tanks passing by-- some of them with a white
    star, some of them with British markings, with British flags--
    we all jumped up and hugged each other.
    We were so happy to see this happening,
    that we are finally going to be free.
    And we waved handkerchiefs out through the window to them.
    They saw us.
    We were standing up, some of them.
    And we were waving to them.
    But they didn't come to us.
    They went to the town, to the railroad junction,
    to Bergen to liberate the town.
    And we said, why?
    Everybody had a big let down-- said, where are they?
    They went, and they didn't see us, probably.
    They went by to the little town.
    So the following day, in the morning,
    they came into the town to liberate us, to camp.
    They liberated first the camp-- the town, Bergen.
    And the next day, in the morning, 9 o'clock,
    they showed up in the camp.
    And when they arrived, that was the most emotional time,
    when we are liberated.
    They arrived at the time exactly the Germans say.
    But they told us something different.
    They told us the Red Cross is going to take us over
    from Switzerland.

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    Interview Summary
    Alan Zinn discusses being sent from Buchenwald in January 1945 to Dora concentration camp; conditions in the camp; seeing American planes at end of March going to bomb Nordhausen; being taken by train for six days to Bergen-Belsen; the Russian POWs who set up a tribunal in the camp after liberation and executed about 50 SS guards; being liberated on March 29, 1945; the delousing of the inmates; the deaths of many survivors from typhus and other diseases; returning to Łódź, Poland in June 1945; meeting his future wife in Łódź; going with his wife and her two sisters to the displaced persons camp in Landsburg, Germany; reuniting with his brother; and immigrating to the United States.
    Interviewee
    Mr. Alan Zimm
    Interviewer
    Sandra Bradley
    Date
    interview:  1995 February 20

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    Sandra Bradley, a film production consultant for the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, conducted the interview with Alan Zimm on February 20, 1995 in preparation for the exhibition "Liberation 1945," which opened in June 1995. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Archives received a copy of the interview on August 25, 1995.
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    The cataloging of this oral history interview has been supported by a grant from the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany.
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    Oral history interview with Nesse Godin

    Oral History

    Nesse Godin (née Galperin) discusses living from age 13 to 17 in various ghettos and concentration camps; being on a death march with about 600 women when the group was pushed into a barn, where they stayed for three weeks; being liberated by Russians on March 10, 1945; her physical condition upon liberation; being sent to a hospital in Chinow (Chynowie), Poland for six weeks; suffering from typhoid, dysentery, and frostbite; going with another Lithuanian woman to Łódź, Poland in May 1945; receiving help from various organizations; meeting a woman from her town who said she had been with Nesse’s mother in a camp near the Polish/German border; going to look for her mother; reuniting with her mother in Łódź; reuniting with her brother Yaheskiel Galperin in Feldafing displaced persons camp; meeting her husband Jack in the DP camp; spending five years in Feldafing, during which time she had two children; conditions in the DP camp; her memories of the formation of Zionist organizations in the DP camp; David Ben Gurion’s visit to the DP camp; the response after the creation of Israel; immigrating to the US; and settling in Washington, DC, where her mother’s sister had a small grocery store.

    Oral history interview with Henny Gurko

    Oral history interview with Henny Gurko

    Oral History

    Henia (Henny) Gurko (née Durmashkin), born in 1926 in Vilnius, Lithuania, discusses being deported from the Vilnius ghetto to Kaiserwald concentration camp for two days and then to Dünawerke for nearly a year; being sent to Stutthof, Ponewesch, and Landsberg; being forced to sing at Landsberg with six other musicians in front of the SS and others; singing the Schubert Serenade in German; walking with the orchestra for miles on Sundays to other camps and giving concerts; performing forced labor in Moll, where she was made to walk up and down a man-made mountain carrying rocks and stones; being with her sister during this time; being sent on a forced march; hearing encouragement from anti-Nazi people on some of the farms they passed; arriving at a Ukrainian camp, where the men were very rough; being liberated by the Americans; the hanging of the camp’s leader; the orchestra continuing on for years after the war; being taken to St. Ottilien, a church in Eresing, Germany; going to Fürstenfeldbruck, Germany and staying there for two years; participating in the orchestra; hearing David Ben Gurion speak; Leonard Bernstein conducting the orchestra in 1948; conditions in the displaced persons (DP) camp; learning that her brother Shimshonzaev (Vladimir Durmashkin) had been killed in a camp; finding it difficult to be happy after so many losses; the orchestra performing during the Nuremberg trials in striped jackets; and singing songs from the ghettos about children, because so many of the children were killed.

    Oral history interview with Irving Heymont

    Oral history interview with Irving Heymont

    Oral History

    Irving Heymont describes coming upon a sub-camp of Mauthausen, Gunskierken, in Austria with the United States Army 5th Infantry Regiment, K Company; visiting the camp and the conditions of the surviving inmates; not knowing about the concentration camps before seeing one; testifying to a board proceeding in Paris, France in September 1945; going to Landsberg, Germany where his unit was stationed; going to a German displaced persons camp, which was created for the survivors of Dachau’s sub-camps; the poor conditions in the camp; receiving orders from General Anslau Ralph to clean up the camp; his efforts to improve it; making the camp an all-Jewish DP camp; tensions between Jews and non-Jews; the survivors creating a camp committee, which established a hospital and schools; the nationalities of the camp’s Jews; the role of Dr. Jake Wallaisky who was part of the committee and worked for the Jewish Organization for Rehabilitation; the black market in and around the camp; preparing the camp for the winter; the crowding of the camp and the resistance of the residents to spread to another camp; his relations with the camp residents and the local Germans; holding elections in the camp; sanitation in the camp; the treatment of children in the camp; visitors to the camp, including Rabbi Abraham Klausner; the trouble caused by the camp’s truck drivers; and helping a man find his son.

    Oral history interview with John Holmes

    Oral history interview with John Holmes

    Oral History

    John Holmes, of Chicago, IL, describes coming upon a labor camp with his unit after fighting in the Hartz mountain sector; conditions of the surviving inmates; the German’s abandonment of the camp; his role as a tank commander; exchanging fire with German soldiers while saving the 14th Reconnaissance Platoon; hearing that German troops were scared of black American soldiers; delivering a letter for a woman he met in the camp to her sister in Illinois; being ordered not to feed the inmates; the impact of the experience on his life; and his combat experience.

    Oral history interview with Joseph Kahoe

    Oral history interview with Joseph Kahoe

    Oral History

    Joseph Kahoe describes being with the United States 761st Tank Battalion in Austria when he and his unit saw individuals coming out of a prison camp; being the liaison officer between his company and the regimental headquarters; the conditions of the inmates and being warned not to feed them by his superiors; only seeing male inmates; and being the commandant of the Polish displaced persons camp near Nuremberg, Germany.

    Oral history interview with Henry Kanner

    Oral history interview with Henry Kanner

    Oral History

    Henry Kanner discusses being in Auschwitz working in the laundry when he was 15 or 16 years old; the death of his family members in the Belzec gas chambers; being taken in January 1945 on a death march; conditions during the march, including the extreme cold and the deaths of many of the prisoners; killing a pig on the second day and eating it raw with other prisoners; being put in an open-air train car; arriving at Mauthausen; encountering a prisoner who had once worked for Henry’s father; the man saving Henry’s life by changing his information in the registry and telling him to pose as a Polish Catholic; noticing the SS officers either disappearing or changing into regular Wehrmacht uniforms in May 1945; three American soldiers who were shot down, beaten, and thrown into the gas chambers; the day of liberation; the capture of many of the German guards; leaving the camp on foot with another boy; walking to Linz, Austria; going to Passau, Germany, where they were captured by German farmers and escaping before being shot by the farmers; staying in a displaced persons (DP) camp in Passau (possibly Pocking DP camp); going to a DP camp in Nurnberg, Germany; working in the office with a US Army captain, who was a representative of UNRRA; conditions in the DP camp; details on the emigration of people from the camp; immigrating to the US, where he had relative; getting married and having three sons; and feeling lucky as well as guilty to have survived.

    Oral history interview with Abraham Klausner

    Oral history interview with Abraham Klausner

    Oral History

    Rabbi Abraham J. Klausner discusses being attached to the 116 Evacuation Hospital during WWII; entering Dachau concentration camp in May 1945; arriving at night, and seeing the devastation in the morning; the efforts they all made to bring the survivors back to life; helping to organize lists to name survivors as well as their places and dates of birth; how people were helped to get to Italy where they could get on ships to Palestine; finding Hungarian women survivors in a displaced persons (DP) camp in the Alps; learning how former inmates hid prayer books while living in the camps; finding a Polish Hebrew library in Munich, Germany that had been confiscated by the Nazis and taking a few books at a time and distributing them to people; finding the Klausenburg rebbe in Dachau, nursing him back to health, and bringing him to Feldafing DP camp; seeing Jewish and non-Jewish survivors in the DP camps; the administration of the camps; the DP camps Feldafing and Landsberg am Lech; the issues with the mixed nationalities in the camps; segregation in the camps; the lack of freedom in the camps; the compulsion people felt to find their family members; a center that was set up in Munich where people could search for family on lists; the efforts to reconnect children with their parents; finding a printer in Landsberg and getting books published and distributed; helping to establish a newspaper in Feldafing along with journalist Shalatin Levy from Kovno (Kaunas, Lithuania); meeting with David Ben Gurion in Munich, and taking him to St. Ottilien hospital, Landsberg, and Feldafing; and working near Dachau for several years with the US Army.

    Oral history interview with John Komski

    Oral history interview with John Komski

    Oral History

    John Komski discusses being taken to Dachau concentration camp from camp Hersbruck and staying there for 20 days; being made to shower, but not being given anything to wear except a blanket; being in an area separated from the rest of the camp; finding on April 29, 1945 that the camp gates were open to the rest of the camp; finding clothes and standing for 2-3 hours for roll call, but no SS came; how the fighting began in the afternoon and then there was silence; some prisoners running to the gates, and some getting guns; a US soldier who came into the area and commanded that the guards surrender or be shot; how thousands of prisoners gathered and many had flags of different countries; seeing a glorious sunset with dark clouds in the east; some people lighting fires and cooking food; many of the former inmates dying from eating too much; being moved to a displaced persons (DP) camp; not being allowed to leave the DP camp; being very sick and moved to an American hospital; going to a DP camp outside of Munich in June 1945; UNRRA officials forcing people to be repatriated to their native countries; going to Garmisch, Germany; meeting an artist who was a former prisoner of Auschwitz, and receiving help from him; meeting his future wife; drawing and painting scenes from the concentration camps; and immigrating to the US.

    Oral history interview with Pat Lynch

    Oral history interview with Pat Lynch

    Oral History

    Pat Lynch discusses being an American nurse attached to the 123rd Field Evacuation Unit during WWII; being near a subcamp of Dachau; how the nurses did not go into Buchenwald because the conditions there were too terrible; going into the camp and being shocked by how horribly sick the survivors were, with typhus and TB; Germans from the area who were conscripted to work in the kitchens and laundries of the various DP camps; the young Hitler youth who marched in cemeteries; moving from tents to real buildings in the summer of 1945; praying often to St. Jude about the conditions; seeing a big difference in some of the survivors between March and August as they regained some strength and bodyweight; seeing a lot of Russian children in the summer; treating some pregnant women; being told that the women officers in the camps were often more cruel than the men; and her long working days during that time, which prevented her from speaking more with the patients.

    Oral history interview with William McWorkman

    Oral history interview with William McWorkman

    Oral History

    William McWorkman discusses being with the 12th Armored Division during WWII; going through Weilheim, Oberau, Innsbruck and south to Bringer Pass; entering into Landsberg concentration camp; seeing hundreds of dead prisoners; interacting with the former prisoners; the arrival of the 493rd Field Artillery Battalion; being told not to get too close to the prisoners because of typhus; giving the former prisoners clothing and food, but not too much food; the battalion surgeon who said not to overfeed them or they would die; the attempt to triage the survivors; General Allen, commander of the 12th division, entering the camp and later ordering all males in nearby village to walk through the camp; and his regret that they did not spend more time comforting the living.

    Oral history interview with James Moncrief

    Oral history interview with James Moncrief

    Oral History

    James Moncrief discusses being a Lt. Colonel during WWII; working as a staff officer in general headquarters when the 11th Army overran Buchenwald; leaving supplies and a medical company at the camp; being sent to the camp by Captain Bennett; conditions in the camp; the crematoria; and the US soldiers’ awareness of the camps.

    Oral history interview with Judah Nadich

    Oral history interview with Judah Nadich

    Oral History

    Rabbi Judah Nadich discusses being a chaplain in the US Army during WWII; being stationed in Paris, France, where among other activities, he helped 600 Jewish survivors go from Germany to illegal ships in Marseilles to get to Palestine; being asked to be the liaison officer to General Eisenhower to coordinate efforts to help the Jewish survivors in August 1945; being stationed in Frankfurt; the Jewish survivors in the American zone and the displaced persons camps (DP camps); differences between the DP camps; the unforeseen problems in the DP camps; inspecting the DP camps in August-September 1945; food and medicine in the DP camps; the running of the camps by UNRRA ,the Joint, and the military; immigration of the refugees; and visiting camps with David Ben Gurion.

    Oral history interview with George Salton

    Oral history interview with George Salton

    Oral History

    George Salton discusses being a prisoner of the Nazis; being liberated from camp Wöbbelin in the spring of 1945 and his memories of that day; the prisoners’ fears that the Germans would return; a soldier who shared his rations with George; his attempts to contact his relatives, including his brother; going to the British zone in Lübeck; staying in the Neustadt displaced persons camp (DP camp); the different refugees in the camp; being sponsored by his relatives for immigration to the United States; living in Deggendorf, Germany until his paper to the US came through in 1947; and seeing German teenagers in Deggendorf before he emigrated and his feelings envy, pain, and loneliness, knowing he would never have normal teenage years.

    Oral history interview with Richard Seibel

    Oral history interview with Richard Seibel

    Oral History

    Colonel Richard R. Seibel, US Army veteran and participant in WWII, discusses being on a patrol when he came across the concentration camp Mauthausen; his lack of knowledge about concentration camps before seeing Mauthausen; reporting back to General Daiger who asked him to take supreme command of camp; the two Americans in the camp, one of whom was Lt Jack Taylor of the OSS; his memories of the camp; seeing corpses piled up; the unrest in the camp and division between the inmates; a former prisoner, Premislav Dobius, who was the interpreter for army; how the Jewish survivors wanted to be separated by their religion, not by nationality as the others were; members of a Swiss Zionist organization who arrived demanding the Jewish survivors be given their own space; the prevalence of typhus and TB; the deaths of hundreds of people after liberation; 400 Wehrmacht soldiers who were brought in to repair the sewage and water system; the conditions of women prisoners; the camp’s former SS commander Franz Ziereis who was absent from the camp before liberation; and the capture of Ziereis.

    Oral history interview with Milton Shurr

    Oral history interview with Milton Shurr

    Oral History

    Milton Shurr, US Army veteran and participant in WWII, discusses being part of a displaced persons team (DP2 unit) attached to the 1st Army beginning in the fall of 1944; being in Verviers, Belgium; his previous work as the head of a Jewish community counsel in Oklahoma City; the approximately 500 displaced persons; contracting hepatitis; rejoining the regiment in April 1945 in Wetzlar, Germany; going to Buchenwald; seeing barracks with two-story bunks and 6 people in each slot, buildings full of clothes and shoes, and piles of bodies; disinfecting survivors with DDT; the high rate of death for survivors; one of his colleagues who spoke German and acted as an interpreter, and how this affected the officer’s mental health; his work with administrative tasks; Allied prisoners being sent home; the desire for many survivors from eastern countries to not return home; the work of the Red Cross to reunite families; being told by the Joint to take care of about 2000 children; being in Buchenwald until the area of Thuringia was turned over to the Russians; and paying the Poles in the DP camp with cigarettes to run trucks.

    Oral history interview with Alfred Sundquist

    Oral history interview with Alfred Sundquist

    Oral History

    Dr. Alfred B. Sundquist, a major and physician with the XVIII Airborne during WWII, discusses being stationed a few miles from Ludwigslust, Germany; being instructed to go to a small concentration camp (Wöbbelin) and report back; arriving in a jeep, and seeing that the Germans had already left; conditions at the camp, which took up a few acres and had no crematoria and a couple of barracks; seeing corpses piled up and prisoners with striped uniforms who were too weak to get up; seeing the physical results of starvation in the former prisoners, including the loss of teeth and swollen legs; seeing evidence of cannibalism; writing a report recommending survivors be sent to apartments in Ludwigslust; many survivors dying from complications from starvation; the 82nd Airborne connecting to the 18th Airborne; the civilian Germans from the town being made to dig graves and attend funerals for the camp’s victims; taking pictures of the camp (he donated these pictures to USHMM); his thoughts on the local Germans of Ludwigslust; and his thoughts on Hitler’s mental health.

    Oral history interview with Fela Warschau

    Oral history interview with Fela Warschau

    Oral History

    Fela Warschau discusses being in a labor camp outside Hamburg at end of March 1945; being forced to clean streets after the city was bombed; being taken by train to Bergen-Belsen; the conditions in the camp; staying together with two friends and her sister; sharing a single potato amongst themselves for several days; liberation; survivors being disinfected and given different clothes; staying in Bergen-Belsen for two months; German doctors and nurses who were brought to the camp to work; her feelings of satisfaction seeing Germans being forced to help bury the dead; finding two of their cousins; hearing that her father had died at Auschwitz; going to Feldafing displaced persons camp; life in the DP camp; signing up for ORT courses; the tendency for survivors to marry each other; getting married in 1946; the differences between the American and British leaders of the DP camps; the children in the DP camp; and her thoughts on emigration.

    Oral history interview with Irene Weber

    Oral history interview with Irene Weber

    Oral History

    Irene Weber discusses being liberated from a prison in Czechoslovakia at the end of WWII; the Russians who liberated the prison; being deloused and sent to a hospital; being given a change of clothes and a little money; her decision to not return to Poland; staying in an apartment with a friend; registering as a Czech citizen; going to Prague in an attempt to leave the country after the communists took over; going to the American Zone of Germany; staying in Landsberg am Lech displaced persons camp; the crowded conditions in the DP camp; living in Rosenheim, Germany; working on a farm to pay rent; attending an ORT school for nursing in Föhrenwald; graduating and then working in a hospital in the DP camp in Pokcing where she cared for survivors; continuing to live in Rosenheim and taking the train to get to her job; and receiving assistance from UNRRA and the Joint even while she was working as a nurse.

    Oral history interview with Nick White

    Oral history interview with Nick White

    Oral History

    Nick White discusses being with the VI Corps, part of 7th Army, when he saw Dachau for the first time on April 29, 1945; going to the camp with his colleague Englehardt, who was a photographer and took pictures of the camp; seeing a trench in the camp filled with dead SS soldiers killed by American infantry which had been in the camp before them; being overrun by the survivors who were joyous to see them; giving out caramels and k-rations to the survivors; conditions in the barracks; a large room that led from the gas chambers where several thousand bodies were stacked up; the high rate of mortality for the survivors after liberation; finding 39 boxcars with corpses inside; and his incomprehension of the inhumanity they found.

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