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Oral history interview with Wanda Biernacka and Andrzej Jonas

Oral History | Digitized | Accession Number: 1991.A.0113.1 | RG Number: RG-50.059.0001

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    Oral history interview with Wanda Biernacka and Andrzej Jonas

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    Interview Summary
    Wanda Biernacka, born in 1919 in Zyrardow, Poland, describes living in Warsaw, Poland, where her father was a railroad worker; her younger sister; attending a school where there were no Jews; coming into contact with Jews in the Polish Socialist Party, which she joined in 1937; meeting the Jonas family at the Siudyla family’s house and being asked to help shelter a Jewish family; the Jonas family consisting of four people, a mother, father, a six year old, and a two year old (Andrzej Jonas); taking care of Andrzej at her house until the end of the war; the older son changing hiding places several times and how she was often the only one who had any contact with him; Mrs. Jonas hiding at her cousin’s home in Zyrardow; all of the family surviving the war; her attempts to help the Szeleszewski family; helping Mrs. Palatynski, the sister of Bronislawa Jonas, and her daughter; helping Mrs. Jona Perec; helping about 11 people, not including those who just needed identity papers; the process of obtaining identity papers from the Department of Vital Records by reusing the files of the deceased; how it took about ten people to make new papers; her estimate that it took about twenty people to save one Jewish person; being aware of the risks involved with helping Jews; the differences between the life of an Aryan verse life in the ghetto; the smuggling of food; seeing the ghetto while going through it on the tram; the delivery of food to the ghetto; and how she received a medal of honor and a certificate from Yad Vashem in 1984.

    Andrzej Jonas, born in Warsaw on October 28, 1940, describes how Mrs. Wanda Biernacka was his “war mother”; being taken care of by Mrs. Biernacka during the war; how his memory of that time is very limited; his first memory, which was of his family escaping the ghetto; being in a small dark room with his mother; his memory of receiving a toy filled with candy; how his favorite place in Mrs. Biernacka’s house was the kitchen; his memories of one incident when he saw a wounded German soldier in the garden and charged at him with a wooden toy gun calling out “hands up” and the soldier laughing; going back with his mother after the war; meeting his father once in a coffee shop during the war; liberation and Russian officers setting up a headquarters in their building; being friendly with the officers; and learning to sing Russian songs.
    Interviewee
    Andrzej Jonas
    Biernacka Wanda
    Interviewer
    Bozenna M. Urbanowicz-Gilbride
    Date
    interview:  1991 July 04

    Physical Details

    Language
    Polish
    Extent
    1 videocassette (VHS) : sound, color ; 1/2 in..

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    Bozenna M. Urbanowicz-Gilbride conducted the interview with Wanda Biernacka and Andrzej Jonas on July 4, 1991 in Warsaw, Poland. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Oral History branch received the tape of the interview from Mrs. Urbanowicz-Gilbride on August 17, 1992. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Archives received the interview by transfer from the Oral History branch in February 1995.
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