Overview
- Interview Summary
- Murray Pantirer describes his family in Krakow, Poland; life in Krakow from 1939 to 1941; his decision to volunteer to work for the Germans; building Płaszów in 1942 and witnessing Amon Goeth's first atrocities; the shooting of Diana Reiter; Goeth's reprisal for a work party escapee; the liquidation of the Krakow Ghetto in March 1943 and helping with the body disposal; his siblings being shot by Oder; the story of his parents' murder in 1942; the health aktion in Płaszów in May 1944 and his brother's selection for Auschwitz; his first encounter with Oskar Schindler's kindness in providing food and water for Jews in cattle trucks and the dangers of his action; being sent to Gross-Rosen in October 1944 and getting on the Brinnlitz list; the “miracle” of being saved from genocide; his view of Schindler's motives, including humanity and the importance of bribes and charm; opening frozen railway cars in early 1945 full of Hungarian prisoners, saving as many people as they could, and Emilie Schindler's efforts to help nurse the survivors; Schindler's reaction upon seeing the event; his tribute to Schindler in naming building works after him and raising money for the Oskar Schindler Scholarship at Jerusalem University; Schindler's changing attitude towards Nazism; and the non-productivity of Brinnlitz illustrating Schindler's humanity.
- Interviewee
- Mr. Murray Pantirer
- Interviewer
- Jon Blair
- Date
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interview:
1983 May 12
Physical Details
- Language
- English
- Genre/Form
- Documentary films.
- Extent
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1 sound cassette (90 min.).
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- Restrictions on use. Permission to copy and/or use recordings in any production must be granted by the Imperial War Museum and by the copyright holder, Thames Television.
Keywords & Subjects
- Topical Term
- Bribery. Concentration camp inmates--Selection process. Holocaust, Jewish (1939-1945)--Personal narratives. Jewish cemeteries--Poland--Plaszów. Jewish ghettos--Poland--Kraków. Jews--Poland--Kraków. Murder--Poland. Shooting (Execution) World War, 1939-1945--Atrocities--Poland. World War, 1939-1945--Conscript labor--Poland. World War, 1939-1945--Deportations from Poland. World War, 1939-1945--Jews--Poland. World War, 1939-1945--Jews--Rescue. Men--Personal narratives.
- Geographic Name
- Brnenec (Czech Republic) Kraków (Poland) Płaszów (Poland) Poland--History--Occupation, 1939-1945.
Administrative Notes
- Holder of Originals
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Imperial War Museum
- Legal Status
- Permanent Collection
- Provenance
- The interview with Murray Pantirer was conducted for a documentary concerning the German industrialist, Oskar Schindler, by Thames Television for the television program entitled "Schindler." The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum acquired a copy of the interview from the Imperial War Museum in February 1995.
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The Jeff and Toby Herr Oral History Archive
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