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Oral history interview with Lily Kalman

Oral History | Digitized | Accession Number: 2016.271.1 | RG Number: RG-50.030.0892

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    Oral history interview with Lily Kalman

    Overview

    Interview Summary
    Lily Kalman, born on January 27, 1929 in Berettyóújfalu, Hungary, discusses her parents and two brothers; her father’s death when she was seven years old; her family’s Jewish traditions; her mother’s decision to place her and her younger brother in orphanages when she was eight years old; her feelings about the all-girls orphanage; attending an all-girls public school; the relationship between Hungarian Jews and non-Jews; many teachers’ attitudes towards Jewish students; her mother’s work selling poultry in Budapest; sneaking out of the orphanage to go to her aunt’s house for food; her mother’s sporadic visits; her older brother’s and her uncles’ time in forced labor battalions; seeing Paul, her older brother, while he was stationed outside of Budapest during his forced labor service; learning about the Anschluss, annexation of the Sudetenland, and start of World War II through radio and newspapers and the general reaction of non-Jews in Budapest; rationing; hearing about ghettoization and deportations outside of Hungary; learning about the German occupation of Hungary; the closures of the girls’ and boys’ orphanages and going to live with her aunt; her guilt about telling Laszlo, her younger brother, to return to Berettyóújfalu, from where he was later deported to Auschwitz with her mother, grandmother, and other family members; being forced to move to a starred house and the living conditions there; her aunt going into hiding with her husband and stepson; going into hiding, with Paul’s help, in the apartment of a Christian woman; hearing rumors about the Arrow Cross shooting people at the Danube River; risking a visit to friends who still lived in the ghetto; the suspicions of a neighbor’s daughter, who was dating a German soldier; witnessing the beating of an older Jewish woman; learning about the deportations of her mother, brother, and grandmother from a friend from Berettyóújfalu, who was deported with them; never learning how Paul died in the forced labor service; leaving the Christian woman’s apartment during the Siege of Budapest and reuniting with her aunt at her hiding place; liberation by the Soviets; the scarcity of food and water during the Siege of Budapest and after liberation; hearing stories of rape and looting by the Soviet soldiers; returning to Berettyóújfalu with her aunt, uncle, and her uncle’s son; learning later that a cousin had given birth during her transport to Auschwitz; marrying her husband, a policeman and survivor of a forced labor battalion, in 1949; her work at the Ministry of the Interior; life under communism; the births of her two sons; her husband’s wish to immigrate to America and her reaction; her experiences in Budapest during the 1956 Revolution; her husband’s connections in Austria; her family’s trek to Vienna and later flight to New York; adjusting to life in the US; making her New York apartment a home; taking night classes to learn English; returning to Hungary many times over the years for vacation; meeting many other survivors in New York; buying a house; thinking about her experiences during the Holocaust more often now; and the importance of remembering the events of the Holocaust.
    Interviewee
    Lily Kalman
    Interviewer
    Katherine Saint John
    Date
    interview:  2016 August 22
    Geography
    creation: Benicia (Calif.)

    Physical Details

    Language
    English
    Extent
    1 digital file : MPEG-4.

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    Keywords & Subjects

    Personal Name
    Kalman, Lily, 1929-

    Administrative Notes

    Provenance
    Katherine Saint John, on behalf of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Oral History Branch, conducted the oral history interview with Lily Kalman on August 22, 2016 in Benicia, CA.
    Funding Note
    The cataloging of this oral history interview has been supported by a grant from the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany.
    Record last modified:
    2023-11-16 08:05:25
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